Vote for what our team's biggest problem is.

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What area's currently the Jets' largest prob/which area's improvement could help most

  1. Defensive Line (penetration/run stopping and pass pressure)

    116 vote(s)
    76.3%
  2. Coaching (play-calling and scheming on both offense and defense)

    27 vote(s)
    17.8%
  3. Run Blocking

    7 vote(s)
    4.6%
  4. Linebackers (coverage, blitzing, tackling, shedding blocks)

    2 vote(s)
    1.3%
  1. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

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    I was originally blaming the D-line most of all, but I have started to lean towards coaching because nothing has changed. I guess, in a way, talent allows for better coaching but the Pats do a hell of a lot on D and they're not all Pro Bowlers.

    Clearly our LBs are struggling, not one has stuck out except for Harris these last 2 games.

    Our acquisition of Thomas Jones has not benefited the team yet because not one offensive lineman has been a bulldozer in the run game, and it would take a lot more than one guy to boost the run game.

    So if you had to pick one are to improve that you think would make the largest effect on our performance, what would it be?
     
  2. VegasMav

    VegasMav Well-Known Member

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    D Coach Sutton...
     
  3. AlioTheFool

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    As much as I've pointed a finger at Chad, the problem is not any one particular thing.

    The D lets up too much. Part of that is coaching, part of that is total underperformance by players.

    The running game is garbage. Most of that is players not being able to perform. I don't blame the coaching for the line being absolutely dismal. How many run plays can you call when it just doesn't work? Herm's regime ran no matter whether it worked or not, and we villified them. You can't have it both ways.

    The passing game has shown improvement with Clemens. If guys can hold onto the ball, we'll see if that situation is actually fixed.

    There's nothing on this team that is actually "good" except special teams. ST is well coached, and the guys on that unit are playing well. Our kicking game leaves a bit to be desired, but that's more nitpicking than anything else.

    You can't legitimately blame any one thing for this mess. I do agree with MarcoV though, Sutton has to go, but I've been saying that since last year.
     
  4. Namath2Kolber

    Namath2Kolber New Member

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    I agree with Alio - these are all big problems. But, when the D can not stop a RB, no matter how untalented or how crappy his line, especially in a big situation. I mean, at least those other areas occasionally come trough. The run D is just Guddawful.
     
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    Cant run behind a line when the line is getting absolute 0 push and gets blown off the LOS on every down.
     
  6. Beamen

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    I think the DL is our biggest issue, but it would not be as much of an issue if the CS would have owned up and changed the scheme....

    Additionally, the rest of the options are all legitimate problems as well, and they all fall on the CS...

    So the choice, to me, is obvious
     
  7. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    Interesting that the QB isn't an option, even I suspect if Chad were still starting....
     
  8. ShadeTree#55

    ShadeTree#55 Active Member

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    All of the above.

    We pretty much stink at all facets of the game, except kickoff returns.
     
  9. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

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    Because it was never as big a problem as the D-line, play-calling or run-blocking. Each and every one these effected the QB play and the position our offense was put in. Think about it.
     
  10. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Well, that's your opinion. You didn't leave room for anyone else to choose their opinion, should it be that Chad was the biggest problem.

    It doesn't matter how much one thinks about it, Chad was playing poorly, at least in MY, and others, opinions. By not introducing that option as a choice, you have invalidated the poll.
     
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    Defense....we've been up on most games, but can't stop anyone from scoring.
     
  12. dabrowsk1

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    I voted run-blocking. But the option should really have been run-blocking/Oline.
     
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    no brainer, Defense.
     
  14. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    D-line, which in part is a coaching and FO issue because it's the personel they chose. It may also hinder the play calling ala CP and the offense. Everything is tied together in some way or another.
     
  15. CharlotteJet

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    Do not have the personal to run a 3-4?simple as that.
     
  16. Br4d

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    I'd add a Front Office/Talent Acquisition entry, because this Jets team was DoA out of training camp this year and that's just not excusable in a team that was capable of winning 10 games even against a weak schedule.
     
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    All the above
     
  18. Jtuds

    Jtuds Active Member

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    Alio, Chad didn't play on Sunday, and I created the poll yesterday. How does that invalidate the poll? Are you implying that our record would be significantly different if Chad, our biggest problem previously, was not playing before?

    I cannot fathom how so many people are not realizing that the fact that this team is in the bottom half of this league in almost every statistical category on offense and defense has very very little to do with any one particular player on the team, yet effects one player (the QB) more than any other individual.

    In other words, the entire defense is responsible for how poorly we stop the run, and the coaches are responsible for playing schemes that don't work and giving our star RB the ball 12 times in a game. The O-line is at fault for not creating a running game. Does this put more pressure on the QB? Chad was responsible for what he did when the ball was in his hand. He is not the one who is responsible for the face that he had to lead the team down the field for a score with 4 minutes left in a game after having a lead 10 minutes prior. If 21 other players do their job, you can take away 2 game-ending picks. Unfortunately, in football, underperforming players can dump their responsibility onto the shoulder of te offense when they blow it.

    I guarantee you the guys in the locker room who blew leads against the Giants and Bengals are not blaming Chad, because they know how it works, or at least aren't refusing to allow themselves to admit it. Kellen Clemens brings arm strength and mobility to this team, but as you will see, the results will be no different until the D-line starts penetrating and stopping the run, the O-line starts to give us an actual running game, the coaches start alowing Kellen to throw down the field, and the LBs stop getting blocked consistently on running plays. If this doesn't change, then Kellen will have no more success than Chad.

    So, if people want to have the opinion that Chad was the biggest problem, I'd like to know how making a change at his position is going to change the results more than making an improvement at one of the spots stated above. Give us a stout D-line and be beat the Giants and the Bengals. In both games Chad was in and we scored enough points, but we gave up too many, and QBs don't play defense.
     
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  19. Gloom N Doom

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    where's the button for "All of the above" ?
     
  20. JUNJOBX2199

    JUNJOBX2199 New Member

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    Bad Poll : Wheres the choice for all of the above!
     

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