That is actually a pretty good point. On the other hand, Running Back is the position that can provide the biggest upgrade through the draft aside from maybe Linebacker.
I think the big question that will determine our draft strategy for 2008 is Vilma. Its obvious he is not suited for the 3-4. If we can find a trading partner in the offseason, I think we have to make the move. He simply does not present value to a 3-4 team. I think he can yield a 2nd round pick. If we do unload Vilma, I think that makes us a lock to draft one of the speed rushing OLBs in the draft. I prefer Groves, then Harvey. But I think both can be had in the 12-18 range. If we wind up with a top 6 pick, I am hoping we can find a trading partner in that range and still nab our guy. By moving down, we should be able to stockpile some picks and address our other needs at OL, DT, and CB thoughts?
I think we will go OLB first, regardless of what we do with Vilma. My preference is Gholston, then harvey, then Groves, only because Gholston has about 20 pounds on Groves, is better against the run, and has experience dropping into coverage. Where in Philly do you go to school Chadwick81?
I actually haven't updated my profile in awhile. I graduated from Wharton in 2004. Used to live on Walnut Street and watch the Jets games at the Sheraton University City, there was a sports bar in the lobby. What about you?
Week 7 NFL Draft Order Code: Pick Team Wins Losses Win % Opp Win % Division Record Conference Record 1 STL 0 7 0.000 0.510 0.000 0.000 2 MIA 0 7 0.000 0.529 0.000 0.000 3 ATL 1 6 0.143 0.495 0.000 0.000 4 NYJ 1 6 0.143 0.538 0.333 0.200 5 SF 2 4 0.333 0.419 0.667 0.500 6 NO 2 4 0.333 0.467 0.333 0.500 7 CIN 2 4 0.333 0.467 0.500 0.400 8 BUF 2 4 0.333 0.505 0.500 0.400 9 OAK 2 4 0.333 0.535 0.000 0.400 10 MIN 2 4 0.333 0.549 0.333 0.400 11 PHI 2 4 0.333 0.571 0.000 0.200 12 ARI 3 4 0.429 0.447 0.667 0.400 13 HOU 3 4 0.429 0.540 0.000 0.400 14 CHI 3 4 0.429 0.570 0.333 0.400 15 CLE 3 3 0.500 0.419 0.667 0.500 16 DEN 3 3 0.500 0.550 0.500 0.500 17 SD 3 3 0.500 0.588 0.667 0.500 18 SEA 4 3 0.571 0.390 0.667 0.600 19 BAL 4 3 0.571 0.451 0.000 0.250 20 TB 4 3 0.571 0.471 1.000 0.600 21 KC 4 3 0.571 0.505 1.000 0.600 22 PIT 4 2 0.667 0.423 1.000 0.667 23 CAR 4 2 0.667 0.486 0.667 0.800 24 TEN 4 2 0.667 0.510 0.667 0.667 25 WAS 4 2 0.667 0.538 0.500 0.600 26 DET 4 2 0.667 0.544 1.000 0.600 27 JAX 4 2 0.667 0.545 0.333 0.600 28 NYG 5 2 0.714 0.495 0.667 0.667 29 GB 5 1 0.833 0.500 0.500 0.800 30 DAL 6 1 0.857 0.485 1.000 1.000 31 NE 7 0 1.000 0.437 1.000 1.000 32 IND 6 0 1.000 0.544 1.000 1.000 * If teams have identical Win %, Opponent Win %, Division Records and Conference Records, the order is subject to a coin flip. ** New England must forfeit their first round pick if they make the playoffs. *** San Francisco owns Indianapolis's first round pick, New England owns San Francisco's first round pick and Dallas owns Cleveland's first round pick.
I think St. Louis gets its first win of the year this Sunday. They are home against the Browns and will have Steven Jackson back
Week 8 NFL Draft Order Code: Pick Team Wins Losses Win % Opp Win % Division Record Conference Record 1 STL 0 8 0.000 0.504 0.000 0.000 2 MIA 0 8 0.000 0.534 0.000 0.000 3 NYJ 1 7 0.125 0.556 0.250 0.167 4 ATL 1 6 0.143 0.487 0.000 0.000 5 SF 2 5 0.286 0.422 0.667 0.400 6 CIN 2 5 0.286 0.483 0.333 0.333 7 OAK 2 5 0.286 0.539 0.000 0.333 8 MIN 2 5 0.286 0.548 0.333 0.333 9 HOU 3 5 0.375 0.553 0.000 0.333 10 CHI 3 5 0.375 0.575 0.250 0.333 11 ARI 3 4 0.429 0.435 0.667 0.400 12 NO 3 4 0.429 0.453 0.333 0.600 13 BUF 3 4 0.429 0.504 0.667 0.500 14 DEN 3 4 0.429 0.561 0.500 0.500 15 PHI 3 4 0.429 0.568 0.000 0.333 16 TB 4 4 0.500 0.474 1.000 0.600 17 SEA 4 3 0.571 0.388 0.667 0.600 18 CLE 4 3 0.571 0.410 0.667 0.500 19 BAL 4 3 0.571 0.466 0.000 0.250 20 CAR 4 3 0.571 0.491 0.667 0.800 21 KC 4 3 0.571 0.496 1.000 0.600 22 WAS 4 3 0.571 0.546 0.500 0.600 23 SD 4 3 0.571 0.574 0.667 0.600 24 PIT 5 2 0.714 0.422 1.000 0.750 25 TEN 5 2 0.714 0.500 0.667 0.750 26 DET 5 2 0.714 0.526 1.000 0.667 27 JAX 5 2 0.714 0.548 0.333 0.600 28 NYG 6 2 0.750 0.491 0.667 0.667 29 GB 6 1 0.857 0.483 0.500 0.800 30 DAL 6 1 0.857 0.487 1.000 1.000 31 NE 8 0 1.000 0.453 1.000 1.000 32 IND 7 0 1.000 0.543 1.000 1.000 * If teams have identical Win %, Opponent Win %, Division Records and Conference Records, the order is subject to a coin flip. ** New England must forfeit their first round pick if they make the playoffs. *** San Francisco owns Indianapolis's first round pick, New England owns San Francisco's first round pick and Dallas owns Cleveland's first round pick.
We get the 3rd pick due to Atlanta's bye week. Had they played and lost we would still pick 4th. Indy continues to have the last pick.
I wonder if a similar chart that factors in each teams future schedule and variables such as future opp win% etc would be easy to create? The Rams have an easier road from here on out than MIA and NYJ. Bulger and SJax will eventually pick it up. MIA and NYJ are putting the all-bench team out there every single Sunday and to be quite honest with you, the only winnable games are against each other + 1(maybe) random upset.
Seeing us start winning and NE picking ahead of us might be even worse. Could you imagine, them picking right ahead of us & taking the guy we wanted?
Football Outsiders does something like that I think. I'm not sure if that will be an easy thing to project but I'll think on it. Any suggestions are welcome.
Week 8 NFL Draft Order Code: Pick Team Wins Losses Win % Opp Win % Division Record Conference Record 1 STL 0 8 0.000 0.496 0.000 0.000 2 MIA 0 8 0.000 0.541 0.000 0.000 3 NYJ 1 8 0.111 0.569 0.250 0.167 4 SF 2 6 0.250 0.426 0.667 0.333 5 CIN 2 6 0.250 0.485 0.333 0.286 6 ATL 2 6 0.250 0.496 0.000 0.200 7 OAK 2 6 0.250 0.527 0.000 0.286 8 ARI 3 5 0.375 0.434 0.667 0.333 9 MIN 3 5 0.375 0.547 0.333 0.333 10 DEN 3 5 0.375 0.550 0.500 0.500 11 CHI 3 5 0.375 0.578 0.250 0.333 12 PHI 3 5 0.375 0.592 0.000 0.286 13 HOU 4 5 0.444 0.535 0.000 0.429 14 SEA 4 4 0.500 0.388 0.667 0.600 15 NO 4 4 0.500 0.450 0.333 0.600 16 BAL 4 4 0.500 0.462 0.000 0.200 17 KC 4 4 0.500 0.477 1.000 0.600 18 BUF 4 4 0.500 0.500 0.667 0.571 19 CAR 4 4 0.500 0.511 0.667 0.800 20 SD 4 4 0.500 0.554 0.667 0.600 21 TB 5 4 0.556 0.481 1.000 0.667 22 CLE 5 3 0.625 0.405 0.667 0.500 23 JAX 5 3 0.625 0.550 0.333 0.600 24 WAS 5 3 0.625 0.557 0.500 0.600 25 PIT 6 2 0.750 0.408 1.000 0.800 26 TEN 6 2 0.750 0.477 0.667 0.750 27 NYG 6 2 0.750 0.515 0.667 0.667 28 DET 6 2 0.750 0.527 1.000 0.667 29 GB 7 1 0.875 0.484 0.500 0.800 30 DAL 7 1 0.875 0.500 1.000 1.000 31 IND 7 1 0.875 0.538 1.000 0.800 32 NE 9 0 1.000 0.454 1.000 1.000 * If teams have identical Win %, Opponent Win %, Division Records and Conference Records, the order is subject to a coin flip. ** New England must forfeit their first round pick if they make the playoffs. *** San Francisco owns Indianapolis's first round pick, New England owns San Francisco's first round pick and Dallas owns Cleveland's first round pick.
Rambo, great stuff. I guess the "Who do we take with the #3 pick" question is gonna start going ape shit.
It certainly will...I just don't want them to take McFadden...great player? Absolutely, but we have good RB's. Our Olineman and Dlineman are simply TERRIBLE.
Grab running backs young. Preach on 'em Mr. Whitlock. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/349976.html
