Ok i know he hasnt had a great season but you cant blame these losses on him. Chad doesnt block, he doesnt open up holes for the running game, he doesnt play defense, he doesnt call the horrible play calling that the coaching staff sends in. Ill admit hes not having a good year but the 1-7 record is not his fault.
It's not all his fault but he has been doing some dumb dumb things. And no, you're not the only Pennington supporter left. I can't think of too many other QB's backing up KC right now.
The coaching staff had to make those "horrible" calls because Pennington can't make downfield throws...maybe with Clemens we'll actually be able to see what Schottenheimer can do with this offense now.
preach on, brutha! how come only you and I know that QB is absolutely meaningless to the outcome of games. nice to know there is another sane voice on board.
The most interesting thing for me right now is the debate: Was Chad limiting Shotty or was Shotty Limiting Chad? We should know in a few weeks. On one side we know Chad was done, on the other our OC is crap. Scary at best, because if Chad really was done, why did our OC and head coach keep him in so long. Offseason fodder for the beat writers and TGG.com poters alike.
My big question has to do with Chad's health... Last year, coming off the surgeries, he threw more deep passes and had much more zip on the ball than this year...doesn't make sense... unless there's another injury that Mangeious is not telling us about. I will say that Chad has been limping for the better part of a month. If that's what's limiting his throws, then he should've been pulled before this until he got healthy. In this case, his toughness was his undoing. He may have been better off asking out of the lineup until he's 100%. Now, he may be done as our starter. The only chance has of Chad remaining with the team, and regaining his starting role, is if Clemens does well enough to keep the Jets from drafting a QB, but not so great that Mangini doesn't make him compete for the starting job in training camp. Maybe by then, Chad's arm will have miraculously and finally healed, and he will return with a few more MPH on the ball. Reaching here, but stranger things have happened. I hope Clemens turns out to be a revelation, that Chad returns as a backup, and that he gets a chance along the way to a championship run to play a meaningful cameo, a la Bledsoe in the AFC Championship Game vs. Pittsburgh, the year that Brady took them to the Super Bowl.
I'm sorry, but... you're kidding, right? You don't REALLY think that the QB is "absolutely meaningless" to the outcome of games, do you? If so, I'm not sure "sane" is the word I'd use to describe your position.
Watch out Cappy...JetBlue will probably jump all over you because you don't see his "sarcasm" via the internet. People that think that we're better off or in the same position with Chad Pennington have no clue about football.
ok im not saying we're better off with pennington all im saying is that you cant blame him for the 1-7 record. He didnt lose the bengals game and the playing calling vs the eagles at the end of the game was just plain stupid on the coaching staff. Jones was having a good day and we dont give him a chance to push it into the endzone.
Its not his fault. Yes he's made some poor decisions, and I agree it was time for a change, but he doesn't deserve all the blame he's been getting. The TEAM sucks; its not just him. We're constantly getting outcoached, and the defense can't stop anybody. Its so painful to watch...
I agree. Although I'm hesitant to say it's the staff's fault, either without knowing more information. It's much easier to second guess after the fact, and the subtleties that go into play-calling at the pro level are numerous. (That's not to say that you can't outsmart yourself... just saying that it's not always as straightforward as it seems.) ETA: If there was one place I'd place the blame for this season, it's with the physicality of the defense. I don't know what the deal is, but they are getting manhandled game in and game out. Good coaching can compensate for SOME of that, but if you're getting pushed three yards off the line of scrimmage play after play after play... well... there's not much you can do about that.
look..every1 got what they wanted..but chad deserves to leave with respect..you guys didnt mind him when he brought us to the playoffs...im happy clemens is going to play cuz i think hell do some things...but lets show chad respect..he deserves that...he sacrificed his body and played hurt for this team.
hahahaha, you are kidding right?? remember when Indy had the worst defense in the league from like 2002-2006...why did they make the playoffs all of those years??....Peyton Manning...their D would let up 30+ points a game all the time, and single handedly, Manning would get 11+ wins a season
Chad just didnt' look right, he started out the year fine but has gone downhill. I don't know if he's hurt or what but as much as i love Chad it's the right decision to sit him. Chad is far from the lone culprit but he has had multiple opportunities to win games but hasn't been able to come through. The season is over, we need to see what Clemens can do.
I agree we should be running the wishbone. We could put Brad Smith in as QB and basically use him as a running back in a running option O. We don't need no stinking QB.
bring in grady jackson for a look. oh- but they arent even doing that. Once again they are miscalculating the talent they have on the team. How could a very large, space-filling, experienced NT ever hope to compete with a lineup of D-Rob, Mosley and Pouha? Edit- to get back on topic, CP has played his role in getting to 1-7. He has made some bad decisions and some terrible throws that went for crucial picks. But I'd like to see him stay on as a backup, if he renegotiated his contract accordingly.
I reluctantly feel it's time for a change at QB if nothing else to see if Clem is the real deal or not. I feel it's a win win situation, if the kid bombs or is killed under a sea of pass rushers we'll know that Chad is not to blame for this teams pathetic performances and the real culprits, (my opinion) Mangini and his coaches, (I give a pass to Westcoff), will be unmasked.
Chad will be missed. He is my all time favorite football player and Jet and this is hard to swallow, but at 1-7, it's time to see if this time can do any better with Kellen than it can with Chad. Chad will start somewhere again next year, he's a proven winner and he'll get his shot.
