I agree, that guys an idiot. If D'Brick were to even have a flaw, it would be in the run game, so moving him to RT is already idiotic. Aside from that, D'Brick has been our most consistent pass blocker the whole year, despite getting no help from his LG, and thus constantly being forced to look over at the defender next to him and virtually guard two men.
Dude, don't call me names. It's pretty immature. If you wanna disagree fine but to get all bent makes you look foolish. Just the fact that a #4 has a "flaw" makes my point.. Also, "The fact he is already the best lineman means nothing" ..amongst who? and yes, you compare a #4 pick amongst the greats because if he Isn't then he isn't worth a #4!! Hello!?
I agree that D'brick is probably not going to go down as a hall of famer, but that's where your logic is flawed. You evoke the names of some of the greatest LT's to play the game. You can't expect that just because he was a high pick, since the draft is such a crap-shoot. Look at D-Rob, he's a third round talent picked fourth overall. Tom Brady was a 7th round pick. All things considered D'brick has progressed tremendously with a practice squad guard next to him. And as far as long, every year, there is a OL who is annointed the next great thing. Everyone awes at there shocking physical attributes and proclaims them the next big thing. I remeber some people on this board were piping for the jets to take Winston Justice in the second round last year! 7 sacks later against an excellent giants front 7 team who our line kept in relative check, I still like the D'brick pick at 4:up:
Sorry, but that is completely flawed logic. Especially since he is in the middle of his second year with a gaping hole next to him. He has pretty much locked the left side down against every tough DE in the league. LT is there protect the blind side of the QB! Everything else is gravy. He has done his job as well as can be expected #4 overall pick or not!
i think brick is a quality LT like lomas brown.... but takes plays off... and no way does he get moved to rt... we need a jon runyan type for rt and then we may get a running game
You can't really be serious Tee... Everyone knows that dbrick is not a great run blocker.. Yet you want to move dbrick to RT ? Then what makes you think this guy long is such a lock, dbrick was a much better LT in college... Some said the best Lt prospect to come around in years.... Looking at the top 10... Can you really be mad.. No one in that top 10 list anything crazy... The best probably being ernie sims... Your wrong Tee... The guy is good... Think about who this guy has faced these last couple weeks trent osi, justin smith, schoebel... All frustrated to no end... what more can this guy do for you ?
For everyone who complains about Brick at 4, think how awful it must be to have drafted Gallery at 2.
Long is certainly a quality OL prospect. W/ that said, he is not the prospect Brick was in terms of athleticism and upside. I can accept the arguement that Joe Thomas.(and w/ that said he'll never have Brick's feet or long arms) wast just as good of a prospect, but not Long.(and w/ that said he'll never have Brick's feet or long arms) W/ Long, what you see is what you get. He's a technically sound mauler, who will be a top notch run blocker due to his great leg drive but an average pass blocker, due to some slowish feet. He truthfully is a better fit at RT, due to these skills. Think a rich man's young Jason Fabini/Todd Steussie type. The top Ol prospect if he comes out is Michael Oher. He needs alot of work w/ his technique but his skills are out of this world. Now you pair HIM w/ Brick..and wow..
IMO, If you pick an LT @ #4 then you are expecting him to be a franchise tackle Correct? and franchise meaning LOCK Down and upper echilon in both run & Pass. With that in mind can anyone here tell me D'Brick is ever going to be that? That's the reason I say that using a #4 on a guy who is a "needs work on ____" is not where you use up the Pick.. Would you use that Pick on a Qb or RB that "Needs work" on a major part of his game like accuracy or vision? When you pick an LT @ #4 you expect this guy to be that franchise player because IMO you can build a better line via FA and the rest of the draft. That said... I am hoping he becomes every bit of a franchise tackle so we can stop worrying about our QB's blindside and so we can stop this #4 LT banter... :smile:
In all fairness any player drafted #4 overall in a draft that includes the likes of Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Jay Cutler, Joseph Addai, Matt Lineart, and many others is going to have a hard time ever living up to the expectations set for him. That being said, Brick is doing one hell of a job this season and has been a bright spot in what otherwise has been a pretty dark year so far.
That right there is where you lose the argument. Brick was never a HOF type tackle comming out of school. If you expected him to be you did not read his scouting reports or watch him play much. The fact is he was the best option for the Jets at #4 that year. There was no O lineman you would take over him, and few if any skill position players that would have more impact than he would. The fault does not lie with brick, but your expectations. Not every #1 is a franchise QB. Not every top 5 a Hall of famer. Not every first rounder a pro bowler. Brick is comming along exactly as advertised. He is not a bust by any means. We are getting more out of him than jsut about any player taken in round one of his draft year and he filled a great need of our team. How can you not except that? Started every Game at Left Tackle since being drafted. This year has held his own against some of the top pass rushers in the Game. I'm happy as could be to have him on my team.
Yeah man...I know what you're saying about all of the top talent he had taken around him in that draft class. Our o-line will most likely be the strength of our team for a long time after this season...we just need another guard and we'll be set. This year's upcoming draft plus the free agency period should be the last off-season we need to "rebuild" this Jets team....then it will be time to put up or shut up.
Originally Posted by Tennessee Jet Ngata and Marcus McNeil would have been a great draft. But overall, Brick has been playing real well. To start, we dont know if Ngota could handle the 3-4. He was considered strictly a 4-3 NT. Secondly, McNeil is not the elite pass rusher brick is, as evident by his play this year...thats not even including his back condition. __________________ After 39 years of Misery and heartbreak: Accept nothing less than a championship KurtTheJetsFan View Public Profile Send a private message to KurtTheJetsFan Find More Posts by KurtTheJetsFan Add KurtTheJetsFan to Your Buddy List Yesterday, 02:43 PM #12 yanks9596 Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm pretty sure Ngata was considered to be the only true 3-4 NT in the 2006 draft. Am I wrong on that one? The guy is a 6'5" 350 pound load in the middle. I really wanted this guy on the Jets. Oh well. Brick has been good. The comments from some of these posters are just unintelligent. They comment from a position of cluelessness. There foolsball I.Q. teeters on ZERO. The few knowledgeable football posters are very few here.
Unintelligent? I really hope w/ the number of questionable threads you've created that you are just joking..I really do..
Anyone here who has defended DeWayne Robertson that is now trashing Furgeson is a pretty big hypocrite.
Speaking of unintelligent posts with football IQ's teetering on zero, this one needed dusting off. http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=23696
