The guy we need at QB is currently at Univ of Louisville

i will admit when i am wrong and i was, sorry, i forgot that the big east didnt form till '91 my bad

 

Apology accepted, sir.

 

i didnt say he is or he isn't just that u dont go out and draft a qb with a top 5 choice when u have an unproven commidity on the bench? could kellen suck? sure! but we dont know that, and i dont know how u can formulate an educated opinion on a basis of 4 quaters, we need to start him, see what he's got first before we just say fuck it and draft a guy like brohm, we need BIG GUYS

 

good, since others feel u are a well knowledged poster (i never look at names, just posts) do u think we should blow a pick on brohm?

 

I question whether Brohm isnt a system guy that made a 75 percent passer out of Stefan Lefors

 

I don't think this regime can draft a QB in the 1st round next year even if Clemens sucks here in 2007. Clemens was drafted to become the franchise QB by Tannenbaum and Mangini. For them to have to turn around and select a QB early in the 2008 draft would be highly bizarre and perhaps even unprecedented.

It would be more likely that Clemens starts some games, sucks bad, Mangini and Tannenbaum get fired, and a new regime drafts a QB in the 1st round in April. I still think that would be bizarre because I don't think Clemens is going to be so horrible as to be given up on after this season unless he were to suffer a horrific injury like Greg Cook (had arguably the greatest rookie season ever for a QB in 1969; missed the next 3 years and played a game in 1973 and that was it).

 

I answered this question while you were asking it.

To add to my previous post-
If Clemens was not on the Jets roster and two veteran guys with no future were behind Pennington (guys like Brad Johnson and Mark Brunell and Trent Dilfer), it'd make perfect sense to draft a QB in round 1 in April.

But with Clemens here it makes little sense, unless he is a colossal failure when he finally gets to play this season OR he suffers a career-ending injury. With that said, I still don't think the Jets should or would draft a QB in round 1 when there are so many other problem areas on this team. They would be better off going the same route as Houston did when they made the move for the young veteran QB in Matt Schaub.

 

That's fair enough. Well, hopefully you are wrong.

 

I don't know about Brohm. He had that deer-in-the-headlights look last year at The Birthplace.

 

Brohm plays really well against bad teams with bad defenses. Like Murray State.

 

I will give up being a Jets fan if they draft Brohm with a top 5 pick. First off, a pick that high and we get Glenn Dorsey if he comes out no question about it, second: we are NOT gonna be drafting qb, and third: i'm trying real hard not to sound like a homer right now but i think that Matt Ryan will be the best QB in this year's draft. While Woodson is up there, i don't think he'll fit our system well and no one's sure how his skills will translate in the NFL. Ryan is NFL-ready right now and with the right coaching i think that the Peyton clone prediction will be spot on

 

...wow. Go be a Bills fan then, because it's looking like they'll get Dorsey.


Glenn Dorsey does not fit into the 3-4 defense.

You actually think that Matt Ryan is a Peyton Manning clone? Do you watch football?

 

you most certainly do draft big guys in the top 5...mario williams is lookin pretty good, julius peppers turned out alright, jonathan ogden? preeeetty good...point is if there is a dominating d-linemen out there in the top 5, we need to use the pick on him, rather then waste it on brohm, its only worth it on brohm, if we put kellen in and he sucks, or if brohm turns out to be the next peyton, but thats a huge if, and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle

 

i agree, dorsey does noit fit in the 3-4, he is too small and is better suited fore a 4-3 kinda like that dude from kentuky we wasted a #4 overall on, i think his name is D-BUST

 

well i can respect the Dorsey not fitting in the scheme, i don't know much about him other than the stuff i hear from espn, but the point i was trying to make was QB is not the position of need right now and if we use a top pick on a QB that is not a consensus bonafide #1 then i will seriously question those making the decisions. We've barely even seen KC play so i don't understand how this thread can even exist. Watch the kid play a few games and reserve judgement till then.



and yea buddy i do see alot of similarities between Peyton and Matty Ryan. i didn't say Ryan is definitely gonna be the next peyton and i do admit his decision-making needs to improve (which the right coaching will help) but i do see many of his characteristics in Ryan (physical stature, poise in the pocket, leadership, arm strength, accuracy, etc.) Yea i watch a lot of football, and trust me i've seen this kid play plenty

 

well "buddy"...Peyton Manning doesn't have poor decision making skills. He is a football god. If you're going to compare anyone in this year's class to Manning, it would have to be Andre Woodson. He rarely makes mistakes and he can make ALL of the throws. He was thrown into a poor situation at Kentucky and made the best out of it. Kentucky isn't going to win the SEC, but he definitely turned that team around.

I don't think we should draft a QB either...I think Kellen Clemens has what it takes to win in this league. I want the Jets to draft a playmaker, like DeSean Jackson or Darren McFadden. Getting one explosive player would do wonders for our offense, I know the o-line isn't strong, but Clemens doesn't need an o-line to throw a screen to DeSean Jackson/Darren McFadden. Both of those guys are capable of taking it to the house on EVERY play.

 

The point is that decision-making can be taught or coached-up, it will come with maturity and experience, physical gifts and raw talent can't. I feel thats what distinguishes Ryan from Woodson. And the Peyton comparison was just to prove a point, that the 2 QB's are similar. no one is even close to being in Peyton's league