Scik's Penny Passing Analysis ( Week 1 )

I read your full analysis on the site and it was pretty accurate. the point about Chad's mechanics being off is not right though. His mechanics are perfect for what he is trying to do, which is to mainly dump off little touch passes underneath the coverage.

He really has always done this and it's one of the reasons he's so accurate on the run, he really does not need to set himself to throw the ball.

He also gets minimal velocity on many of his throws because he does not have his body involved at all except from the shoulder up. This is the main reason that he's never going to be a very effective NFL QB against good defenses. Good defenses laugh at the theory that he is so good at executing.

 

That's a nice little analysis, but you know all it's going to do is stir up the Penny v Clemens debate....

Very few of your grades there that I can argue with, although I could be picky and give a lot of the average plays that you gave a B+ a C+... I say that because a lot of those are the passes that Pennington made well, but he forewent other, higher-risk, higher-reward options for....

 

He deserves an "F". When you are down by 3 or 4 touchdowns the entire game, dinks are as useless as (fill in your own useless phrase here).

 

It's not 3 or 4 TD's that they are useless against, it's 9+ pts.

To get a team back in the game from 2 scores down you really need to be able to march the ball up the field when the defense is primed and waiting for you to try to do that.

That doesn't mean that a strong-armed QB, say Vinny in his prime, can march up the field at will, however those guys can stretch the field out in a way that the defense has to account for every inch in it's game planning.

When was the last time we saw a team lay back in a 3 deep zone when the Jets were down a couple of scores in the second half? 2001? Nobody needs to lay back against Chad because he doesn't make them defend the area 20+ yards beyond the line of scrimmage at all. When he does complete a 30+ yard pass, and we've all seen him do that a few times a season, he is routinely throwing at single coverage, because there's no need to double his receivers with the usual safety deep and cornerback on the man.

You must make teams respect the entire field on defense or they'll just cut your string sooner or later and you wind up kicking a field goal when you really needed 7.

 

Did you even watch the game? He was down 3 TDs once and took the team down the field for a TD. He was never on the field down 4 TDs..

Good job Scikotics..

 

Don you just must not have been watching another game. The Jets were never down by 4 touchdowns in the game (considering they lost by 24 points and the Pats scored the last 10 points). And while Pennington was in the game the only reason they were down by threee TD's (for one series - not the entire game) was because of the KR TD and the fact that after Chad got injured the Pats scored another TD. When he got back after his injury Pennington came back and lead the Jets to another TD drive to be only trailing by 14.

OF course, there is no sense in letting facts get in the way of preconcieved notions. I'm sorry but IMHO a person that objectively gives Pennington an "F" is out there on an island.

Just as when another poster claimed that Chad has never looked good against the Ravens when he has in fact never played the Raven this post proves that some people will resort to anything to try and make a point.

 

Good, interesting read.

Who is this guy? Was he watching on TV, or the coaches film?

I'm just wondering, if on some of those plays he actually saw receivers open downfield. Can't tell that on TV.

And I absolutely agree about his mechanics being what keeps him from getting great velocity. He worked on them before last season, and early in the year he was throwing the ball great. Better than I've ever seen him throw it.

They seem to have gone back to more just arm throwing now though.

 

Nice job Sci!

Good to see perspective from someone who has played the postion at more than a HS level...

 

Would have been an interesting addition to note the amount of time Chad had on the completions - that reads as though he wasn't actually hurried as much as it seemed in real time...

 

Penny has never looked bad against the Ravens, either. He's undefeated against the Ravens, too.

 

Haven't you learned yet that facts are unacceptable defenses of Pennington's skill? :wink:

 

Amen. How anyone can get down on Pennington for his performance in week one is mind blowing. The guy played the kind of football that he's always seemed to, making good reads, using short efficient passes, and moving the sticks. Whether or not people like his style they should respect the fact that he did his job. There's something seriously wrong when people would rather bash Pennington for a shortcoming he has when it probably didn't even matter in the game in question.

Pennington was having a good game, no reason to believe that he couldn't have lead the team to another score if the game was still in question. It wasn't though, because our defense was horrible and ST's blew it. Where are the threads on the D-line?

Is it that much easier to shaft Pennington then it is to tear apart the defense for the lack of pressure they got on Brady all day? How about some heat for Mangini for installing a system that we don't really have the personnel for? What about Tannenbaum letting a veteran difference maker on the O-line go over a paltry million dollars, then re-negotiating with a guy who probably wouldn't start on 2/3 of the rest of the teams in the NFL? Why not take it a step further and question the Revis pick? Was our secondary that much worse then our D-line heading into the offseason?

 

I thougth after he got hurt his arm looked a little stronger for some reason. If you look at the Penny from 02- to know I think his mechanics are really screwed up.