Tannenbaum = Hypocrite

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  1. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    well said.
     
  2. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    well thats what i've been saying for a few days now. it doesnt make any sense
     
  3. BlairThomas#1

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    If Law students entered a draft, were vying for a position at only 32 law firms, then had their rights owned by only one law firm after a day in June and got paid like a senior partner in their first year then it would be similar.
     
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    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    BANG!

    Nice post man! :beer:
     
  5. Jets81

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    And how do you know that top law firms don't look at graduation positions of the best law schools in the country? You don't think they scout the up and comers and try to make the best offers they possibly can?

    Oh wait, they don't have a draft like the NFL does. Yea, I blame Revis for that. Shame on him for participating in a system that yields the biggest "entry level" pay day for his chosen profession.

    BANG
     
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  6. Miamipuck

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    Jesus, what do they teach in business classes these days?

    Yeah it is hypocritical to run a business by not gving in to the whims of any employee. When any prospective employee or current employee asks for a raise, more benefits etc the owner should just say yes.

    Cool you guys should go to work for GM or Ford. Last, I heard they are doing a bang up job competing with the Japanese using the op's business principals :rolleyes:


    Negotiation:

    Broadly speaking, Negotiation is an interaction of influences. Such interactions, for example, include the process of resolving disputes, agreeing upon courses of action, bargaining for individual or collective advantage, or crafting outcomes to satisfy various interests. Negotiation is thus a form of alternative dispute resolution.

    Negotiation involves two basic elements: the process and the substance. The process refers to how the parties negotiate: the context of the negotiations, the parties to the negotiations, the relationships among these parties, the communication between these parties, the tactics used by the parties, and the sequence and stages in which all of these play out. The substance, however, refers to what the parties negotiate over: the agenda, the issues, the options, and the agreement(s) reached at the end.

    Skilled negotiators may use a variety of tactics ranging from a straight forward presentation of demands or setting of preconditions to more deceptive approaches such as cherry picking. Intimidation and salami tactics may also play a part in swaying the outcome of negotiations.
     
  7. Miamipuck

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    Also I for got add:


    Hypocrisy is the act of condemning another person, when the critic is guilty of the same thing that is being condemned. Though hypocrisy is frequently invoked as an accusation in debates, a few theorists have studied the utility of hypocrisy, and in some cases have suggested that the conflicts manifested as hypocrisy are a necessary or even beneficial part of human behavior and society.

    I do not understand how negotiating for your own best interests in private constitutes hypocritical behavior. Someone please enlighten me. By this definition the only hypocrite I see involved with the Jets is Kendall.
     
  8. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    You don't get to say BANG for yourself.

    That's like laughing at your own joke.

    Which wasn't even funny.
     
  9. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    Oh sorry man. Didn't mean to insult. Really though, it's no worse then waiting around for someone else to reply to something because you couldn't think of anything to say yourself, then when they do posting "BANG!" now is it?
     
  10. BlairThomas#1

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    Way to miss the point. YOU were the on comparing Revis' situation to a dude coming out of law school. I was just pointing out that their really is no comparison, especially, when you liken Revis to a free agent / in the driver seat which he is most definitely not. It is not like Revis could just sign with another team like a first year lawyer could if he doesn't like the offer from the first firm.

    FYI, law schools most certainly recruit candidates and for the most part hire people who interned for them.
     
  11. AlioTheFool

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    I think I've spent enough keystrokes calling the premise of this thread wrong. I've got a few posts sprinkled in the first couple pages. So I'd say I thought of enough things to say myself.
     
  12. Jets81

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    No, I didn't miss the point at all. The point was, the guy worked hard to get where he is. He doesn't like his offer. Like any top student in any field, he should have the option of passing on an offer or contract. He has that option. It's HIS choice.

    Granted, financially he needs the Jets more then the Jets need him right now, but unless he's in a situation where he has to have the money right this second, he has the option to sit out. Like I said before, I don't think he will. Why wait a year to be a millionaire? That still doesn't change the fact that he should do right by himself before the fans or the team at this point.

    Once he signs on the dotted line it's a different story, but for now he has to look out for his own best interest.
     
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    I don't disagree with you there. I don't for a second think that Tanne is being a hypocrite. Tanne, like Revis, is looking out for his own best interest here. I'm just of the opinion that people shouldn't be to quick to criticize Revis either. The whole "millions of dollars to play a game" argument...it's a bit deeper then that.
     
  14. AlioTheFool

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    Fair enough man. I'm not hating Revis. I fully understand he should go after whatever he can get in his favor. I just had an issue with the premise that Tanny was being a hypocrite, when that is quite the opposite of what he's doing.
     
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    I have added my 2 cents as well up til this point. The GM is not a hypocrite!! he's just doing his GM thing. Revis is not money hungry or an asshole player, he's just doing the right thing in the given situation.

    One very important point of note. The Jets have made it clear they will not not re-negotiate contracts with multiple yrs remaining. That little tid bit is what's going to cause them problems down the road with more players. For that reason and that reason only, Revis should not sign for more than he is happy with. And I think people should stop saying that the guaranteed money is greater for 6 yrs. It will be, but it will be nowhere near the vicinity that the signing bonus will be when he gets his next deal, no matter who he signs it with.
     
  16. BlairThomas#1

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    You are assuming that Revis is a surefire #1 CB in 5 / 6 years...not a certainty by any stretch.
     
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    Agreed..... but Revis is willing to take a shot on himself. I like that.
     
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    Hope We Get Him Signed Soon,
     

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