Yankees/Royals...7/23-7/26

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I would drop Myers and Farnsworth too. The thing is Farnsworth is making almost 6 million so trading him would cost money and they won't just send him down to the minors. Henn will go back down so that is one spot freed up, but the only one. I just read this so we will see whatever the plans are soon:

    "Potential moves before the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline will be a major topic Tuesday when high-ranking New York Yankees officials are scheduled to meet in Florida with owner George Steinbrenner.

    Yankees general manager Brian Cashman, who attended Monday night's Class A Tampa Yankees home game at Legends Field, will be among the officials at the session, which was set up earlier this season. Team president Randy Levine and senior vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman are also expected to take part.

    The Yankees have made one trade already, acquiring catcher Jose Molina from the Los Angeles Angels on Saturday night for minor league reliever Jeff Kennard. "

    Latest rumors have the Yankees interested in Dmitri Young. Now that is one pickup I wouldn't complain about. He's really good this year, a switch hitter and makes 500 grand.
     
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  2. Cappy

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    I wouldn't mind having Dmitri Young on the team (although I wouldn't necessarily like it, either... he's been outperforming his career stats for awhile, and has a high BABIP and a low career OBP, which suggests he should regress). My final opinion on that move would depend on how much they give up, and unfortunately, I don't think the Nats would part with Young cheaply. At this point, I think I'd rather stick with Phillips. (I can't believe I just said that.)
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    They won't get much for him. He's 34 and would just be a bandaid for whoever gets him this year which fits perfectly for the Yankees who like it or not have another of Giambi to contend with. I think a reliver or prospect is all they can hope for as the only teams in real need of a 1st baseman are all looking to Texas. He's batting .340 in that horrible lineup, I wonder how he'd do with some protection.
     
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  4. AlioTheFool

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    Just out of curiosity, why are you against keeping Phillips? I know he's worlds apart from Giambi at the plate, but he's a decent hitter, without fear in clutch situations, and he can blow away Giambi defensively.

    I like Phillips, but obviously I realize he isn't All-Star material. I'm just curious as to why you would be willing to dump him when he's been an integral (IMO) part of the recent resurgence. (Just questioning, not arguing.)

    The only guy I would like at first more right now (well apart from Pujols, but I don't dare dream that dream,) is Teixeira. Right now, I'd rather not even bother with a move for Teixeira. We have enough talent to compete right now, and MT is a FA at season end anyway, correct? We can just pick him up in the offseason, and give him ST to acclimate to the Yankees.

    I like the headline on I believe it was the Daily News this morning. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Get some relief if possible. Otherwise, stick with what we've got. This lineup is clicking now. I'd rather not mess with that.
     
  5. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Amazing stats. The last Yankees to have 100 rbis in 100 games were DiMaggio and Gehrig in 1937 and the last Yankee to lead the team (maybe all of baseball) in rbis, runs and hrs was Mantle in 1956 (his triple crown year) and he "only" ended up with 52 HRs and 130 RBIs, numbers Arod should pass.. That's why I don't think he will ever leave NY. Where else can you be compared to those names.

    (now I wait for junc to remind me they never went 12 straight playoff games without an rbi)
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I'm not at all. I want to keep Phillips. I just don't think they do and if they have to replace him I would much rather have Young then Wigginton who we would have to keep for two years. Teixeira is too expensive, Borus is his agent and no matter what we still owe Giambi 23 million next year. We don't need him. Not this year anyway. Young is dirt cheap and having a good year. The perfect rental.
     
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    Yeah, the numbers are simply mind-blowing. Had ARod never gone cold a couple times, we'd be tracking him for breaking the single-season right now.

    As it is, we're tracking him breaking the clean record.

    :rofl:
     
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    Ahh, gotcha. Fair enough then. When I read it, it seemed like you were saying you couldn't believe you were saying you wanted to keep Phillips as though it was something you thought you'd never find yourself saying.

    Agreed on all other points. I'm never excited about one year rentals. They always cost more than their actual worth to the club. Our farm took time to rebuild. I'd like to keep it stocked for internal promotion. Youth wins.

    I agree that Tex is too expensive. He's just always been on my wishlist, so I always hold out hope he'll wind up here.

    I really wish we could find a taker for Giambi, but unfortunately, with his big mouth, we're up shit's creek with him.

    I'll take Young if he comes cheap. I just don't see any need for more positional players, UNLESS, they clean up the pen, and get rid of the fluff, leaving a roster spot open. But that's going to take some trading. As long as we're relying on Farnsworth, Bruney, Proctor, Henn, Myers, Villone, and now possibly Igawa and Karstens, there is no room for anyone on the bench. That squad is destined to pitch to 3 batters each late in the year. We need pen upgrades fast. Bruney and Proctor are the only two in that bunch I'm willing to keep right now. And when the hell is Britton getting called back up?
     
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    I'm sorry but I still have no faith in Vizcaino...

    This is a nice little run he has had, getting outs and pitching well...But that doesn't make me forget how horrible he was for a much longer stretch.

    This to me is simply a "got hot" moment...Won't be long until he turns in the Vizcaino of earlier...

    Bruney for Setup.
     
  10. Don

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    For what it's worth Vizcaino was fantastic in Phoenix last year which is why we insisted on him in the Johnson trade. 70 appearances, 51 hits, 26 runs, 29 walks and 72 SOs. He started off slow here but seems to have it together again.
     
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    Perhaps, as everyone was saying at the time, Viz was just a victim of overuse.

    You're absolutely right. He is a good pitcher, and after getting some rest back in early June, and getting tutored by our HoF closer, he's flat out dominant.

    EcKo, I'm not anti-Bruney, but for you to be so pro-Bruney, and so anti-Viz, I'm not sure what I can say to you. Vizcaino is worlds better than Bruney. Bruney may make it as a 6th or 7th inning guy, but he's not beating out Viz for the setup role.

    Here's the numbers:
    While Vizcaino has a higher ERA, in his past 12 appearances, he has exactly 0.00 ERA, so expect his season-ERA to continue dropping. He's only given up 7 more hits than Bruney in as many innings, and again, most of those were not in the past 12 showings. He's also got 11 more Ks, coupled with only 3 more walks.

    There's no reason to believe that the first couple months of the season were anything more than an abberation. Viz is going to be a critical component of our pen for the next few years. He was an absolute steal for Cashman.
     
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    Last year's first round picks Ian Kennedy and Joba Chamberlain were brought up to AAA, while Clippard and Chase Wright were sent down to Trenton.

    I think this probably means that if there's another double header, one of them will probably be brought up to pitch. It probably also means that at least Joba, and maybe Kennedy, will probably see some time in the pen, if not the rotation, come September at the latest.
     
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    Wow, were Clippard and Wright doing poorly in Triple A? That's rough that two guys who started MLB games this year got demoted again.
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    The plan is for Chamberlain to pitch relief so I don't think you will see him get a start. I am sure you will see him here on 9/1 though. Interesting read, I didn't realize he was native american. I do know he throws 98mph. If he can get a couple more pitches he might end up the closer after Mo.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news...t_id=2076246&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
     
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  15. Don

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    Seattle loses for the 4th straight game. Good way to start the night off.
     
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    I agree completely... when I said "I can't believe I'm saying this," it wasn't that I don't want him. I DO want him to stay put. I'm just surprised that I'd be saying that this year... didn't think it'd happen. I'm happy to see Andy doing well and hope he can keep it up.

    Tex is a free agent after 2008. He's arbitration eligible after this season, and will likely command $12 million or so.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I don't think I have ever seen an entire team get hot at the same time like this. I just hope they don't all cool off at the same time too.
     
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    this team is absolutely on fire...im lovin it!
     
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    someone give me the timetable on Hughes...and is he even expected to be brought back up to the Yankees anytime this season?
     
  20. The Dark Knight

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    BING BONG! HELLO!! :beer:
     

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