Jets News 3/18

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  1. hydro51

    hydro51 New Member

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    Jets get Ramsey; Abraham deal hits snag
    http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-spjets0318,0,4306015.story?coll=ny-jets-print
     
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    Jets take hard line on Abraham deal
    http://www.nj.com/jets/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1142662281225070.xml&coll=1
     
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    Jets get QB help, adding Ramsey
    http://www.nj.com/jets/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1142662364225070.xml&coll=1
     
  4. ajetsfan4ever

    ajetsfan4ever Active Member

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    who the hell does abraham think he is, he wants to be traded so were gonna trade him, now he's acting like he's an unrestricted free agent and he can go wherever he wants,
    he wants to go to atlanta, he wants, he wants, he wants, im so sick of what he wants, if the trade w/seattle doesnt go through and we dont get a first round pick im gonna be pissed, all because he wants to go to atlanta,

    on ramsey good move, we spent a 6th round pick for him, how many 6th rounders make any team in the nfl? hardly any, he will make chad better, push him, give us depth, he has expierience, hes not old, he has a good arm, and remember this guys, coles only pro bowl season came w/ramsey as his qb
     
  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The Jets need to set a precedent here. They do not cave to personal demands of players when it is detrimental to the welfare of the organization. And if that means sending a message to any players in the future tha plan on choosing the team they are traded to, then they should silently allow Abraham to damage the future of his own career by holding out throughout the 2006 season.
     
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    This is just so typical of Abraham, going back to the 04 season when he made it clear he wasn't going to attempt to play in the playoffs because he didn't want to jeopardize his earning power. They have to be willing to hold the line, even if it means bringing him back as an unhappy player. If they do, I think he will give in at the end, because with every year that goes by he leaves more money on the table. If they give in to him, Tannenbaum will develop the early reputation as an easy mark, who can be muscled into giving in.
     
  7. 7 to Shea

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    Hydro, Thanks for posting all of the news articles. I know many thanked you yesterday and I just wanted to jump on that bandwagon. You make it very easy for me to see all of the news articles on one spot. Thanks.

    As for all of the trades and trade rumors going on; are we better off with 1 pick late in Round #1, or two picks in Rounds 2 and 3, for J. Abraham? Many of us agreed that the goal of this year's draft was to accumulate picks for the team's many needs.

    5 (our own 3, plus Atlanta's 2nd/3rd) picks on day one would be very nice.

    I like the Ramsey trade alot. I'm sure Brian Schottenheimer is eager to get Ramsey in for the Off-season training regiment. Our 6th rounder was not a high price to pay. Don't forget we will be getting supplemental picks as well.
     
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    Kris 15 Well-Known Member

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    I would much rather take the #31 pick, and use that on Nick Mangold, than take the 2nd and 3rd from ATL. Mangold most likely won't be there at our 2nd round pick, so doing the Seattle deal would allow us a shot at the highest rated center in the draft.
     
  9. hydro51

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    Abraham deal not down Pat
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/story/400627p-339415c.html
     
  10. hydro51

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    JETS LAND RAMSEY
    http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/65516.htm
     
  11. FlaJet

    FlaJet Well-Known Member

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    I agree and the key wording is hurt his earning power. If he sits he losses money and his value will be much less next year. Very few teams want a player that dictates when and where he plays.
     
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    the Seattle and Atlanta diffrence is tough, I don't know what I would do. I'd say throw in a third and fourth to get Atlanta's first, but I know we must be valueing our draft picks pretty highly this year. I'd much rather have 15 than 31 (duh) although I do agree that getting a shot at Mongold with pick 31 is pretty appealing.
     
  13. jetliberty

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    To bad for Abe, he can come back here and sit on the bench for all I care. He wants to be close to home, too bad! Jets hold pat on this. Falcons do not want to give us their QB or their 1st, too bad for them!!! They have to give us something more. How about your 2nd this year and your 1st next year.
     
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    BERGEN RECORD

    By RANDY LANGE


    Mike Tannenbaum's nickname as the Jets' assistant general manager was "Mr. T." Now as GM, he might have to be rechristened "Trader Mike."

    On one of the most unusual days in Gang Green off-season history, Tannenbaum on Friday first executed a favorable trade for a potential starting quarterback when the Jets successfully waited out Washington and sent a sixth-round pick to the Redskins for Patrick Ramsey.

    Then in the main event, Tannenbaum played two-fisted poker with Atlanta and Seattle in an attempt to trade disgruntled defensive end John Abraham.

    The first to ante were the Falcons, who were reported to have agreed with Abraham's agents, Tony Agnone and Rich Rosa, on that long-term deal Abraham has coveted the past two seasons.

    The next part was proving more difficult: striking a deal for compensation with the Jets, who had franchise-tagged Abraham for the second straight year.

    The Falcons, apparently struggling with the concept of "trade," continued to balk at giving up value for one of the NFL's top edge rushers. They were rumored to be offering their second-round pick, 47th overall, but not their first-rounder, No. 15.

    Then Seattle raised. The Seahawks, who had visited with Abraham on Wednesday before he flew to Atlanta for a Thursday-Friday meeting, decided to work the other half of the trade. Before making a contract offer to Abraham, they offered the Jets their first-round pick, 31st overall.

    "Seattle has the better offer on the table," an NFL source knowledgeable about the situation said. "What do you do if you're the Jets? You get the most you can in return."

    It's believed Abraham prefers Atlanta, which is closer to his South Carolina home. That's where he worked out feverishly all last off-season to be ready to play for the Jets in September under the terms of his first franchise-tag tender.

    By the mathematics of a popular draft-value chart, the Falcons would need to kick in a third-rounder to their second-round offer to meet the value of the Seahawks' first-round proposal. Or the Falcons could send the Jets their one while getting back a two or a three to balance the books.

    Friday night, all sides were mulling their hands. There was no word if the Seahawks had made headway in contract talks with Abraham's agents or if the Falcons had decided to sweeten their draft-choice package.

    The Jets have another option, which is to fold their cards for this hand and retain Abraham. They have five weeks to make a predraft trade, then could still deal him by the sixth week of the regular season for picks in the 2007 draft.

    "Sure, that's still possible," the league source said.

    The Ramsey trade, meanwhile, is a done deal. The Jets first inquired about the Tulane product (as is Tannenbaum) last year as their QBs began going down with season-ending injuries.

    The Redskins originally sought a second-rounder for Ramsey but realized, after he lost his starting job to an opening-day injury and Mark Brunell last season, that getting something for him was better than nothing.

    The Jets held firm on a sixth-rounder (with no indications that a conditional pick was included in the deal) and brought in the player they feel can at least compete with Chad Pennington and possibly beat him out for the starting job.

    "We always wanted what was best for Patrick," Washington coach Joe Gibbs said, "and in working with him, we feel [the Jets] is where he wants to be."

    "I'm grateful the Jets have brought me here to compete," said Ramsey, who presumably celebrated his new job on St. Patrick's Day. "I understand Coach [Eric] Mangini is going to play the best players and that's all I can ask for."

    Tannenbaum let bygones be bygones with Washington, which in 2003 signed away four Jets, including restricted free agents Laveranues Coles and Chad Morton.

    "I would like to thank the Redskins for their diligence throughout this process," said Tannenbaum, who three years later exacted partial repayment from the Washington "Raiders."

    http://www.bergenrecord.com
     
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  15. hydro51

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    :lol: :up:

    they think were gonna give em abe for free
     

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