NFL writer claims Clemens progressing slowly, thinks Jets-Culpepper a Fit

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  1. 88toon

    88toon Well-Known Member

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    In totally don' see this uy's logic as for Culpepper being a good fit with us.....he makes no mention of Tui, but it was interesting to hear this take on Clemens progress.....whatever most reports is.



    Happy landing for Culpepper?


    By Dave Gladow
    NFL.com




    (June 7, 2007) -- In a move expected for months now, the Chiefs finally completed a trade with Miami, sending quarterback Trent Green to the Dolphins in exchange for a conditional draft pick.

    The biggest news to result from the trade had little to do with Green though, and everything to do with the man he'll be replacing in Miami.


    Daunte Culpepper could soon be traded, but to what team?
    Following the acquisition of Green, incumbent quarterback Daunte Culpepper said the Dolphins approached him to let him know they'd be attempting to trade him -- a somewhat surprising decision, given the team's investment in Culpepper and the general expectation that if the Dolphins were to cut ties, they'd simply release the quarterback and be done with it. Now it seems the Dolphins want something in return.

    Initially, Culpepper was not pleased with the news.

    "They would like to trade me in order to 'get something for me,"' Culpepper said in an email. "However, it is my position that I have already been down that road and I am not interested in being traded."

    Still, Culpepper may not have much say in the matter, and it appears he has realized this. NFL Network's Adam Schefter is reporting that Culpepper is now willing to restructure his contract to facilitate a deal. That's probably the right attitude to take, but toward what end? Where will Culpepper ultimately end up?

    According to Schefter, it won't be in Atlanta, Chicago, Minnesota, Oakland or with the New York Giants -- teams that have had some sort of Culpepper connection in the past but are denying interest now.

    One can also eliminate teams with little to no cap room (such as the Steelers and Broncos). Even though Culpepper is reportedly willing to restructure, according to the Associated Press he is still scheduled to make $5.5 million this season. Realistically, that's a lot of money to leave on the table. Expect him to want a significant portion of that.

    Because of this, it doesn't make sense for a team with a firmly entrenched starter to make a play for him either, not when he'd strictly be a backup at what could amount to a starter's salary. That eliminates teams like Cincinnati, New England and Indianapolis.

    Of course, some teams wouldn't make any kind of sense for Culpepper because of their existing depth. So scratch off Baltimore, Philadelphia, Buffalo and teams of their ilk.

    That left me with a list of five teams that seem to be a good fit. Two teams denying interest, Chicago and Minnesota, both make a great deal of sense too, as both organizations have the salary cap space and the perceived need at the position. However, the Bears refuse to do anything other than stand by Rex Grossman for the moment, and the Vikings would likely be too proud to trade for a player they cast aside barely more than a year ago. Nope, instead we have the following five. Enjoy!

    5. Houston Texans -- Okay, so they just traded for Matt Schaub, awarded him a fat contract and anointed him their starter. I'm not convinced. Particularly when I look at the backup situation: Sage Rosenfels and Bradlee Van Pelt. Schaub is largely unproven, and while Culpepper would add a burden to the team's salary cap, he would also give the team a true second option -- something the Texans don't realistically have right now.

    4. St. Louis Rams -- Again, it might not appear to be the perfect fit, but one has to take into consideration the often shaky injury status of starting quarterback Marc Bulger. Culpepper's best season came while playing under current Rams head coach Scott Linehan in Minnesota, and the appeal of getting to work with St. Louis' arsenal of weapons (Steven Jackson, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, etc.) has to be strong. The Rams could use him, given Bulger's injury history and the team's current backup situation (Gus Frerotte and Ryan Fitzpatrick).


    Chad Pennington's injury history makes a Culpepper deal possible.
    3. New York Jets -- Chad Pennington will be 31 by training camp, an aging veteran with a relatively weak arm (and a couple of shoulder surgeries to boot). New York, already a playoff team, could afford to take on Culpepper as a reclamation project with Pennington already in the saddle, while Culpepper would join a talented roster and sit behind a quarterback who has proven fragile throughout his career. The only hiccup in the plan would be second-year man Kellen Clemens, but by most reports, Clemens is not progressing particularly well at the moment. Still, even if he does come around, Culpepper would provide great competition.

    2. Jacksonville Jaguars -- I happen to be a believer in Byron Leftwich, but given his injury history and current contract situation (Leftwich is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season), it's clear the Jaguars aren't. David Garrard has been inconsistent as a backup, and Quinn Gray does not appear to be the answer either. Culpepper would add more competition to the mix and would be in a position to take over in 2008 if Leftwich leaves in the offseason. Either way, Culpepper would be good insurance for a team that has the cap room to make it work.

    1. Green Bay Packers -- The Packers are very familiar with what Culpepper can do, having faced him when he was a member of the NFC North rival Vikings on several occasions. Green Bay also has the salary cap space to make the move, but most importantly, the Packers have the need. Brett Favre is getting closer and closer to retirement, and the team has to find a replacement. Some observers think that player could be Aaron Rodgers, whom Green Bay drafted in the first round of the 2005 NFL Draft, but more and more it is becoming obvious the team has little confidence in him. Don't kid yourself -- Favre would have been sent packing two years ago if Rodgers was good enough. And with Favre struggling to the third-worst quarterback rating of his career last year (72.7), that doesn't say much for Rodgers at this point.

    Of course, I'm not ready to condemn him to a Tommy Maddox-like career just yet. But it just seems clear that the team isn't entirely sold on him either. Whether Rodgers blossoms or not, it would be a good idea to have some veteran talent on hand to ease the transition when Favre retires. Culpepper would provide that.

    Give Culpepper another year to recover from his disastrous knee injury, take the pressure off Aaron Rodgers to perform immediately and give the team added depth for the next several years. It makes sense.

    Probably too much sense for it to actually happen.
     
  2. Br4d

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    No logic to his argument about the Jets at all. Culpepper couldn't run the offense the Jets are using now and there's no way they'd redo the offense to bring him on.
     
  3. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Where are these reports? I don't recall having seen anything of the sort.
     
  4. 88toon

    88toon Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. He's a drop back and launch it (or fumble) type QB and that is not what our offense is about. Our receivers aren't those type of receivers and thats not our design. This writer is just pulling this out his ass. We are all set at QB. And I'm not even counting Brad Smith as an ultra emergency option.
     
  5. 88toon

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    Most reports = Dave Gladow's barber.
     
  6. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Evidence? Gladow has nothing.

    TBTF
     
  7. alwaysbeenajetsfan

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    if the jets were not happy with Clemens' progression, wouldn't they have at the very least kept Ramsey around? instead they let him go and bumped up Clemens. no sense here at all.
     
  8. MobiusOne28

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    Exactly. In fact, most reports are saying that he's doing excellently with the second offense for the most part.
     
  9. Mavericknyc1980

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    Those reports are so FALSE. If that was the case then why pass on QUINN
     
  10. 88toon

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    What? Even if they caught Clemens doing crack in Woody''s office with Mangini's kids they wouldn't have picked Quinn.
     
  11. Raiderjoe

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    Because brady quinn was never as good as the Notredame PR machine, made him out to be. (The tape dosen't lie) There is a reason B Quinn dropped like a rock on draft day.
    Clemens might be struggling but thats whyyou have Tuiasosopo.
     
  12. Green Blood

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    'Pennington will be 31, an aging vet' - Culpepper has been in the league longer, is 6 months younger, and has blown out his knee 3 times.... no thanks....
     
  13. Br4d

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    Because Quinn's not really a particularly good prospect from a normal point of view. He's very high risk and is very likely to be out of the NFL in 5 years.

    He's like Drew Brees without the accuracy.
     
  14. The Dark Knight

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    Culpepper would be a horrible move, and it will not be made.
     
  15. championjets69

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    Without restructing he is due 5.5M this season according to the mammals flagship station
     
  16. GreenMachine

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    Not if they out right release him.
     
  17. CotchGotIt

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    Couldn't agree more. Culpepper would be a useless addition.
     
  18. FITM

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    That's not exactly what I've been hearing. I've heard he's been very up and down with mixed results in accuracy.
     
  19. IrishSteveZ

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    This guy clearly knows nothing about the Jets, theres not a chance in hell that Culpeper could handle the play book Shotty has.
     
  20. njjet

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    It's way to early to give up on Clemens. Culpepper is to old and coming off a major injury. He was an outstanding QB before the injury. don't forget he had Moss a receiver. I wish him luck but with someother club. :jets:
     

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