OG Jeno James to the Jets?

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  1. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

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    Nope...I'd definitely say right...I'd rather have Kendall starting on the left than Moore starting on the right.
     
  2. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    This will tell you F all but here it is.....

    Dave Hutchinson of The Star-Ledger asked Mangini about Nick Mangold's status after the starting center sat out Thursday's OTA, mostly on the exercycle. Is Nick coming off a surgery? Hutch asked. Did he tweak a hammy?

    "No, there was no surgery," Mangini said, smiling. "You know what the answer is: bumps and bruises."

    Reporters know they're not going to get much injury information out of the Jets' head coach, even though they have to ask. As Mangini said when pressed on why he wouldn't go into specifics on Mangold even during OTAs: "We're all building into training camp and the regular season." In other words, sorry, guys, but the injury policy isn't changing based on the calendar.
     
  3. IrishSteveZ

    IrishSteveZ New Member

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    JJ sucks....no thanks.
     
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  4. KOWIE

    KOWIE Active Member

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    screw this reject....pay kendall!
     
  5. ScotsJet

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    Kendall's getting paid what he AGREED to less than 2yrs ago. He should suck it up and get back out there.
     
  6. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    YUP - Pay the man - we have plenty of cap room for what he's asking.
     
  7. ATL-JET

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    Coach K, come on bruh. Our line might not be an ALL WORLD OL, but damn, joke?

    And how can you POSSIBLY rate a D'Brick after just his ROOKIE season? D'Brick didn't have a Pro-Bowl performance, but the kid, did ok.
     
  8. addage

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    He's still getting old this year.
     
  9. JUNJOBX2199

    JUNJOBX2199 New Member

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    That very true . last year they set the line up to keep chad on his feet. We began to try and incorporate some run specific play 's that were either blown up or the runner missed the hole!
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Right now the O-line is not significantly better than it was going into 2005. In many ways it's worse. That doesn't mean that we're not better off with a good young center as opposed to a good middle-aged one or a promising young left tackle as opposed to a slowing, brittle 29 year old, we are.

    But Pete Kendall was a better guard going into 2005 than he'll be in 2007 and Moore still looked like he might be something at RG and Jones really looked like he had possibilities. Then a couple of key injuries wiped out the season, although the line was obviously weaker than expected before that.

    Right now the Jets have less proven talent at LT and C than they had in 2005 and everybody else is older and/or weaker than their counterpart that season also. If we have one key injury on the offensive line this year we're going to go 6-10 so fast it'll make our heads spin.
     
  11. KleckoNamathToon

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    What if Mangini graded out Kendall as slipping last year and thinks he found an upgrade in Clarke. Maybe Kendall sees the writing on the wall and figures either I get paid if I'm going to get phased out or I go somewhere else and start there.

    My point is there are lots of possible scenarios out there. The bottom line, in Tangini I trust.
     
  12. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I think moving Kendall out for a suitable replacement would be a positive step for the Jets offensive line. Finding a suitable replacement is going to be tough. Ben Grubbs, Justin Blalock and a host of other guard prospects in the draft were the easy answers. We didn't go that route and now all of the answers are going to have additional questions attached to them.
     
  13. KleckoNamathToon

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    I'll admit I was taking a liking to the idea of picking up Blalock or Grubb. But as soon as I see Harris blow up Maroney for a 4 yard loss, I'll forget all about it.
     
  14. Mario

    Mario Well-Known Member

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    We dont have to pay him more, he already got a new contract a little while ago. If he was a star player in his early to mid 20's then he could try it. He is just a guard who is not an all star and not that young.
     
  15. supersonic

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    With the below average OL that we had last year, it was a major disappointment that we gave away 4 picks in the top 100 especially considering the depth of OL talent in this draft. We could have come out of this draft with a MONSTER OL that would have dominated for years. Just imagine Penny untouched with plenty of time to throw and TJ and Leon running wild. I am really suprised we did next to nothing to address this glaring hole.
     
  16. WhiteShoeWillis

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    No he's not a star by any means, but he's our best option at guard right now. Take a look around the league to see the contracts guys who are "just guards" are getting - what do you think linemen don't have an impact on the game? No one available at this point is as good as him so take the million dollars and give it to him. Don't forget not only is he our best option at guard, he's been a mentor to Mangold and D'brick and is also our backup center.

    Why would we not pay him? To keep $1 Million in the owners pocket? Fuck that, $1 million isn't going to break our salary cap and he's easily our best option at this point.

    Is he the answer for the future, absolutely not.
     
  17. The way i see it, Kendall is a vastly depleting player. I believe the only reason he was kept around last year was to help ease the growing pains of Brick and Mangold; Mission accomplished.At this point, I feel the time is right for us to look in another direction.

    Believe it or not, the competition to replace Kendall would most likely result in an upgrade talent wise. I still have not lost hope in Jones. He has too much natural athleticism, and is sill too young to throw in the towel on him. Last year he replaced Kendall at LG during the New England game, and believe it or not, our OL looked a heckuva lot better. He truly has ideal size and athleticism to succeed in our OL scheme which centers around quickness off the snap and the ability to get down field. Given the opportunity he maybe a great guy to pair w/ brick on the left side(Talk about athleticism!).

    Additionally we have some other young guys in Clarke, Bender and Smith that have some talent. When it comes to the grunts up front, nothing speeds aong development and brings about production better than competition(Which is exactly what we're doing along the DL). Releasing Kendall allows us to save money in the cap, rid ourselves of a rapidly depleted player, and allows youthful competition which would result in positional upgrade and a long term solution in between 2 cornerstone franchise linemen.

    Where do I see our OL overall? We have 2 future pro bowlers in Mangold and Brick. Mangold just needs another year of exposure, while Brick just needs to add some upper body strength and more experience. These 2 guys play at the 2 most important OL positions long term...you can't ask for a better start for a rebuilding team than these 2. As stated prior, we have some hungry young guys who could turn out to be starters and good one's at that. If Blanton continues his development, Jones gets a shot at LG, and Bender turns out to be the real deal, we have some pretty good and young depth.

    Where do we need help? We've gotta get some power at the RG or RT spot. Clement started to show that ability by year's end, and supposively has had a great offseason, but aside from that, we just have no run blocking anchor on the right side. Moore was a good compliment to McKenzie(who was our last true anchor on the right side), but aside from 2nd level blocking, he cannot drive block, and is a penalty waiting to happen.

    If Clarke, Jones or Bender can maintain that LG spot and show stability, we'll have a very young and potentially dominating left side of the OL for the next 6-7 years. At that point we'll be able to address the right side w/ some maulers to go along w/ the athletes. At that time Blanton should be given a look at RT, and we'll have another draft to add some better drive blocking help.

    I see our Overall OL as good, not great. We need some help in the starting line-up but have pretty good young depth, and some of the best coaching in the league(Wise is the real deal).
     
  18. supersonic

    supersonic Well-Known Member

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    It is not about the money. It is about precedence. As soon as you pay Kendall there will be another one with their hand out. Caving to mid-contract tantrums is not a healthy way to manage the team or finances. Kendall has a contract and he needs to honor it. If we gave him his initial upfront $$ and he blew a knee we would be SOL, it is the way it goes. So f#(k Kendall and his antics, he doesn't get another dime.
     
  19. dabrowsk1

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    I agree. This was an overall weak draft, BUT deep at OL, ESPECIALLY OG. Which was one of the biggest holes and areas of need going into the draft. I trust this FO and CS, but man this seems like a BIG oversight and gamble to me. One significant injury on the OL (Wade Smith is a good backup but I don't want to see him starting full time) and we are screwed. And there is not going to be as big of an improvement in the run game even with Jones as people seem to think IMO, not with Moore and Clement on the right side. Most of the run plays will be to the outside and left, I can almost gaurantee that. Other teams are going to pick up on this pretty quick. Next year's offseason we are going to be picking up quite a few Olineman. I am just praying for no injuries.
     
  20. greenhorse

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    the jets got 2 possible starters in what was considered a weak draft mid-way through the 1st round....not only that, it seems quite clear to me they got the exact guys they targeted..even down to the 7th rd...ignore kendall and then politely ask him to play out his contract or hold out...why would the jets take any other position..old, mediocre guys under contract can't hold out ...time and patience will resolve this issue before training camp..
     

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