Trading up?

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  1. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

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    I was just reading the draft value chart and was suprised to see that our 2nd round picks together would add up to the last 1st rounder or the 1st second rounder.

    2.59=310 1.32=590
    2.63=276 2.33=580
    Total:586

    What are the possibilities that one of our targets falls to the end of the 1st to make this scenario a good move?

    I was thinking a CB or WR we are high on would be the most likely candidate.
     
  2. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    It's a possibility. I think there is going to be good depth still available at 59 and 63 though.

    Would you rather have Anthony Spencer at 32 or Turk McBride and Marcus McCauley at 59 and 63? I don't know what the answer to that question is.
     
  3. Rhodes_25

    Rhodes_25 New Member

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    i wish we would trade up for Chris Houston, IMO is the best corner in the draft
     
  4. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    phil savage (cleveland browns GM) said he would love to trade down in the 2nd round, so that would be a possibility. having a tall, talented receiver (rice, jarrett) in a jet uni would be nice
     
  5. jetmike

    jetmike New Member

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    Another possibility is to move up from 25 with a combination of #25 and one of our 2nd rd picks. We could move up to 18-19 numbers wise.
     
  6. Tony

    Tony Bipedal, Reformed

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    The ONLY player in this draft I would trade up for is Calvin Johnson, although I suppose I could very easily be persuaded to move up for Amobi Okoye as well. However, if the FO moved up for another DT, there may well be a revolt.
     
  7. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Based on the value chart we could get to 16 using the 25 + 63 (or 59, in the first case we gain slightly according to the chart and in the second we lose slightly.) Using the 25 + 59 + 63 we make it all the way up to the 12.

    Personally I'd rather go for depth and value in this draft. Trading a few vets for later round picks and bundling the acquired picks to move up would be a bit more palatable.
     
  8. mst3000

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    Packaging our first rounder with either of our 2nd rounders would net us a pick in the area of 15-16.

    1.25 (720) + 2.59 (310) = 1030 ~ 1.15 (1050)
    1.25 (720) + 2.63 (276) = 996 ~ 1.16 (1000)

    The question is, is there anyone who'd be around in that area we'd be willing to move up for, like an Alan Brach perhaps?

    Btw, if you were wondering, our first 3 picks equal roughly the 10th pick overall.
     
  9. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    You're right on that. I double-visioned Gil Brandt's chart. Pick 10 is 1,300 and the 3 picks addup to 1,306.
     
  10. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Have to trade them quick if they plan on that. By Wednesday. I don't see it happening with no rumors out there.
     
  11. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I hold faint hopes for the McCareins to Tennessee rumors. They have like no receivers on the roster right now who caught more than 27 balls last year and #2 was like 8 balls.
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yeah, we want a 4th. They are offering a 6th or 7th I think. Somebody will probably blink. If not we will probably end up cutting him anyway and they know it.
     
  13. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    If all we can get is a 7th I'd take a 7th. Marques Colston was a 7th round pick last season. Taking a stab at somebody who is 22 and might get better is better than cutting McCareins and getting nothing.
     
  14. vilmatic

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    Thething is: I'm pretty sure we'l take Blalock with our first, which leaves our two biggest needs still to be addressed. I guess if a premier CB or DE/OLB fell to 32/33, we might make a move, but I think we can stay where we are in the second and - hopefully - still fill both those needs, which seems like the est course of action.
     
  15. PinPointPenning10

    PinPointPenning10 Well-Known Member

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    There's a pretty decent chance he falls to #25. A lot of mocks have us or the Saints at #27 taking him.
     
  16. PinPointPenning10

    PinPointPenning10 Well-Known Member

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    As for trading up, unless someone we really want falls, I'd rather have the 2 picks, as this is a deep draft and we can get some good players there.
     
  17. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    We will NOT take a corner at 25. No way. No chance. Never.
     
  18. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    Why? Odds are there will be no one there to fill our biggest need (DT) so might as well go to our 2nd biggest need in a CB.
     
  19. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I think the thing that most mitigates against taking either a DT or a CB at 25 is that that's not where the value is going to be on that pick.

    If we trade down a bit then a DT or CB becomes a very real possibility, however at 25 you're probably looking at Blalock, Grubb, Spencer, Posluzny or Timmons as the best value depending on how things fall earlier.

    Houston and Harrell are likely to be the best CB and DT respectively still on the board at 25 and both of them really should be taken in the early to mid 2nd not the late 1st.

    We don't need a Bryan Thomas moment in the 1st orund of this draft. Not and keep up with the Patses.
     
  20. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I agree. If there is nothing but a CB there at 25 we will then trade down. Or at least try to.
     

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