...screw what he wants.....hes under contarct and owned property ..and getting HUGE $$$$ ....the 1 player on NYJ who truley is a game changer and factor in every gdamn game.....of all the players NOT to trade is him....who gives a %$#@! what he wants....shut up and play ...to trade him is to admit how irrational and confused this organization is IMO
You're not going to get the best out of a player that doesn't want to be there. It's a little to late to keep Abe.
Plus, what does he do well besides rush the passer? Nothing! The Jets need more versatile guys in the 3-4. So long Abe! Don't drink & drive :up:
Irrational and confused? #1. The guy does not want to be here. #2. We're rebuilding, and Abe isn't getting any younger (not to mention the fact that he seems like a "me first" kind of guy). Now is the time to get something for him. #3. He IS a game changer, but has been injured (or sick) in most of our BIG games (last season was the first year he actually played all 16 games). I can't help but wonder how the playoff game VS the Steelers may have turned out had Abe been healthy. Maybe we don't have to rely so much on Brien's leg (or Herm's stellar decision making). This organization was indeed VERY confused in the past. IMO those days are over. From what I've seen so far, this FO is making smart moves. Seriously, what could Abe POSSIBLY do for us next season? He's not single handedly bringing a superbowl here, and (like I said) he's not getting any younger. Wait and see how this thing turns out before you judge the FO.
He'd make a pretty good OLB in a 3-4, but he's overpriced and unhappy here. I'm with most, see ya Predator.
See Darren Howard of the Saints. Franchised for the second time. He wanted out of NO so bad that he purposely tanked last season. He was such a distraction that they sat him at the end of the season. That could easily be Abe. Get what you can for him and count ourselves lucky that we got anything for him at all.
yeah.... its time to go and move on...there will be another abe type player to come along for the jets - as long as the FO looks for him. these hybrid DE/LB types that can succeed in a 3-4 are not too rare. the trick is to be able to project which ones can succeed and tailor your systen to them. IMO - i thought the jets did abe a disservice back in 2001 when edwards and crew went with the cover 2 crap. they had the PERFECT opp to tailor a defense around abe and even ellis for that matter. Instead they wanted to stamp the team without looking at the envelope... oh well jil
If his behavior and demeanor were that of a Curtis Martin, he would be under contract right now and the Jets would have no intentions of ever trading him.........truth.
He has said he is disappointed with the organization. He has yet to say he would not play here. Even his agents have said all along that they don't "expect" him to ever play for the Jets again. This isn't Abe looking to walk, this is the organization turning their back on him. Granted, Tanny didn't make the promise to him, but regardless, if your boss told you that you would get a raise if you did x,y,z, and after you did it, your boss got fired, then the new boss renegged on the deal, you would be pissed off too. A promise is a promise, especially when it comes in the form of an ultimatum. BTW: Last season was the third time Abe has played all 16 games.
Playing in all 16 games should not be considered an accomplishment. I think with the direction the organization is moving its time to part ways.
Unfortunately I will always remember Abe for sitting out against Oakland and against Pittsburgh. Granted he had the flu against Oakland, but you have to try and play until they have to carry you off of the field. Secondly, when you see what T.O did to play in the Superbowl, it only makes you shake your head even more.
If he would have played with the flu, and underperformed, especially if he gave up a big play, people would have rode his ass out of town. TO was ready to come back, so no gold star for him. He wanted to playin the SB. Then he played lazy. Big damn deal. Abe couldn't play with his knee, so please don't bother with that. The type of injury he had makes the knee feel unstable, even after fully healed. It takes months of recovery before the person has enough confidence to make a turn on. Had he played, he would have appeared he was half-assing, and everyone would have crucified him for that. Come on people, let's deal with facts. I am so sick of repeating the same thing over and over. People have this opinion of Abe, and change the facts to support their arguments. The fact is, on both occasions, he COULD NOT have played. Period.
Yeah, because Abe said to himself, "I am going to skip on the chance at a title, just to screw the Jets!" Come on. That's really reaching now.
don't get me wrong. I loved the guy. I saw him in 2000 up at foxboro. We were in the endzone cheering him and the "D" on. He ate it up until he hurt his stomach muscles. That is what makes fans love their players. Chrebet has no where near the raw talent as does Abe, but people love the individual who busts his ass day in and day out. The relationship is too poisoned for Abe to stay with the NYJ. It did not have to end this way.
I understand that he couldn't play. That's fine. My problem is the guy has played ONE full season in the past THREE years, (and was unable to play in BIG time games for us) yet thinks he deserves a huge contract. Not to mention the fact that he couldn't have cared less about our cap situation at the time. Everything would be peaches and cream with him as long as he got his $$. If he had any sense of "TEAM", he would have made this decision very easy for the FO. They would have given him a nice deal (lets face it, he isn't exactly starving) and every Jet fan in America would love the guy.
I understand what you are saying ECF, but think about his POV. The Jets told him, look we are franchising you, but we aren't giving you a fair offer. You can take what we give you, or take the minimum for the tag. Either way, you have to show up next year, play all 16 games, then we will give you what you are demanding. So he went out and did it. Not only did he get himself in the best physical shape of his career with a personal trainer over the offseason, he came in at the end of TC, and started the first game. He never looked back either. On a terrible defense he managed 10.5 sacks and 44 tackles! On a terrible defense, he had a great year. Can you imagine if he had played to that level in a playoff year? Yeah, he missed games. Who knows why his body didn't hold out for him. He does work his ass off between the chalklines, so maybe that was part of it. I don't know. Regardless, he is the best DLineman we have, and we basically crapped in his mouth as appreciation. I would be pissed off too.
Ditto .... He won't play up to his potential, therefor makign him a cancer within a growing organization ... He has to go
