Al Wilson is on the street

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  1. Br4d

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    Denver Broncos just released Al Wilson due to concerns over his high salary next season and his neck injury late last season.

    Two interesting points:

    1. He might be somebody that would fit very well inside for us in the event we were looking for another option there.

    2. Denver just made themselves a player in any Jonathan Vilma market that opens up. Their backup MLB is Nate Webster who is a journeyman and not much more.

    In fact, if Wilson is healthy he could slide in to Vilma's spot in the 3-4, if the Jets are considering moving him, and allow the Jets to go plus a player by swapping Vilma for a draft pick. Denver has the 21 pick, which is about where you can start saying Vilma's name without getting laughed out of the room.
     
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  2. M00CHNESS

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    Think the Jets will ship off Vilma? I doubt anything below a full on rape happens (of course talking about the trade).
     
  3. Br4d

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    I think Vilma is unsuited to the 3-4, where the two ILB's really need to be able to lay a lick on somebody when they get a clear path through them.

    Whether the Jets would trade him or not is dependent on so many things that I'm not remotely qualified to guess. I can think of about a dozen linebackers we'd be better off with in the middle of the 3-4 though, and probably another half dozen after that, like Wilson, where we'd be no worse off.
     
  4. phatnols

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    and I dont speak for myslef but I speak for everyone


    you are on crack

    you know it would cost the Jets more if we traded or released him this yr?
    2.25 mil to keep 3 mil to trade or release

    Name the Lbers that are better in the 3-4 that are better than Vilma and I will add this "that we can get" its probably none

    Wilson is on par of the Haynes, wadsworths and others, but he doesnt think that he is a team player... that will make min salary he thinks he is actually an all time great.
    HE STINKS and is only a good signing if we can get him for min salary
     
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    i have to say i am impressed at how long the news stayed in the nfl forum....where is belongs
    so which aging vet w/ serious injury issues will turn it around in NY next season in a scheme he doesnt fit?
    ahh al wilson...
    there are plenty more 4-3 teams with holes at lb that may be willing to give him a shot.....but i doubt we show interest and i doubt he would want to play in the 3-4 at this point in his career
     
  6. IrishSteveZ

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    What are you guys talking about? Al Wilson isnt even going to be playing next year, he might never play football again period.
    The guy had a serious injury, he wont be back next season so why are we even talking about this.
     
  7. tomdeb

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    Sorry, you don't speak for me. I don't know if the jets will move Vilma, but I didn't see that much out of him last year in the 3-4. He IS a 4-3 middle linebacker that needs 2 tackles to protect him, not 1. His asset is speed, not power, and I think the jets should at least listen to offers if they believe he has value now. If they don't get value, don't move him. To contend that the mere suggestion of trading Vilma puts someone on crack makes me wonder what you've been smoking.
     
  8. Br4d

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    Yeah seriously, I understand the people who like Jonathan Vilma because he's a good player and a good guy. That does not mean that he's going to be worth a lot in the 3-4. Based on last year he's too soft to make a lot of impact in the defense the Jets are currently playing. I'd love it if he turned into a Mike Vrabel, Tedy Bruschi, Zach Thomas type intimidator I just doubt he's got that capability.
     
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    Dude, they are not going to trade Vilma. DOPT IT!
    Despite his little step back in the new scheme last year, he is still a top 3 player in the team. Only other player who has more upside than Vilma in the team is Rhodes. Vilma is a all 3 down LB. He does every thing that is asked of him. I doubt he ever played in a 3-4 defense before last year, it was all new to him. Ellis had lost a lot of weights in the previous years to be more fit for the 4-3, in the up coming season he probably got his weights up a little. D. Robertson is probably more fit to play the 3-4 this year than he was last year. The RE position will be better this year as well. There will be more pass rushing in the passing downs, allowing Vilma to make plays while dropping back. Vilma will have a much better year than the one he has last year. Plus, he is never hurt. He is almost immune to all injuries. You can't trade those types of players away.
     
  10. All Star

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    Dude, he's not even an option, wait until he's even medically cleared to play football again...........
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Al Wilson failed his last physical which is the reason he was released. Granted, he had a high salary cap number, but he couldn't pass the NFL standards to play. It's safe to say that he's not going to be playing until atleast midseason if he can get ready again, or if he even wants to.
     
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    Exactly! Drop it guys. Wilson wont be playing football in 07, he might never play again.
     
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    Isn't that what people saud about Andre Wadsworth and hes where?
     
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    yea, but by the time Al Wilson is out of football for 7 years ( like Wadsworth) he will be about what 36? 37? something like that...who gonna want him?
     
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    Trying out with for Jets with the rest of the scrubs j/k

    I hope Andre does well
     
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    Wadsworth had a knee injury, which players routinely return from. Wilson has a neck injury, and his entire game is bassed on shedding blocks and making tackles. Impact, impact, impact, to put it quite simply. I just don't see him being worth the cash.

    -X-
     
  17. phatnols

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    thats where you are wrong, "value"?

    he costs 3 million agianst the cap to trade
    2.25 mil agianst the cap to keep

    so we lose money by trading him(you better hope we get a 1st rnd pick)
    and who plays the 4-3 and needs a MLB?

    I dont see that many teams running to give up a 1st rnd pick. yeah he doesnt fit the 3-4 but it doesnt make sense to trade him.
     
  18. Br4d

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    Denver needs an MLB as of now and the draft is thin on 1st round ILB's this year. Lots of OLB's and very few ILB's.
     
  19. Mehl-56

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    Top 5 reasons Wilson isn't going to be a Jet:

    1) He's a "ME" kinda guy
    2) Contrary to popular belief, Vilma is going to be a Jet in 2007
    3) He has a neck injury... the death sentence for a LB in the NFL
    4) This front Office isn't going to pay someone superstar money just because the player thinks he is one
    5) :drunk: ... I forgot what else I was going to say... so I'm going to get another beer

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    5) There is no Value in trading Vilma for a draft pick and signing a guy that likely won't ever play top replace him, thank god some people here don't actually run companies... you'd be giving away the house and left with nothing but your jock strap, and think it was a good deal.
     
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  20. phatnols

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    I dont think we will trade Vilma to denver

    yeah denver needs a 4-3 MLB

    but tell me where we are going to get a better 3-4 ILB? who? explain that
    and why would we take that kind of a cap hit? you obviously know nothing about the cap. trading vlima is idiocy. Now next yr....
     

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