Carr is three years younger than Chad. Entering the prime years for a qb...28-34. He basically put up the same numbers as Chad last year without getting the same protection and conservative offense. Bringing Thomas Jones and David Carr to the Jets without exorbitant costs would be a coup for the front office.
youre right in the respect that carr would know comming in he would be a backup. but he would also be comming to a team that, if given a chance to get on the field, would be leagues better than his previous one. i wasnt playing fantasy football, or madden, its an actual idea. it wouldnt have been out of the realm of possibility. (even though you would like to think so, as youre down on him) carr could make this team better than it is...theres no way to doubt the guys talent and ability. call it wishful thinking...because i think chad will miss at least a game or 2 this season. id rather have carr under center then (maybe even putting in a bid to start) as opposed to kellen...
no doubt...hes younger, more durable, better athlete, more physically gifted...the only spot chad beats him in is the cerebral part of the game....and i cant say as to what extent. im sure with some quality coaching, he could get that part down as well....
As far as being down on him, well I don't think if you suddenly give him a running game, a solid offensive line, and solid receivers he's suddenly going to turn into the pro bowler he has the potential to be. He has plenty of bad habits that need to be worked out for him to get better, and while maybe those issues are a result of the beatings he's taken in Houston, the fact is they are there. But, no I wouldn't be shocked if he turned his career around, and if I was a team that had a bad QB situation, like us from last year, or the Dolphins, Browns, Lions, etc. I'd be going after him. But for him as a Jet, it doesn't make any sense. He wants to start and there are going to be much better opportunities for him. And I don't think it was ever going to be a real possibility, or the Jets would have waited to see what happens with his situation being signing tuiosapdafsdpofas.
When Carr came out, his intelligence was as highly praised as his physical gifts. The guy is a player and someones going to see it very soon. He's got bad habits, but I think a franchise that welcomes him and a coach that sits him down and lays out his faults and how they will attack them will do wonders for him.
The Jets signed Tuiasasopo the day that the Texans first said Carr was likely to be released. A couple of days later the Texans released him. I think it's possible that Tannenbaum and Mangini just wanted no part of Carr and signed Tuiasasopo to avoid having any clamor for him in the fanbase develope. I give them the benefit of the doubt if that was so because they more than anybody else know what type of team they want to put together. BTW, it's testament to the Texan's poor management that they first admitted they might release him and then tried to trade him. Suckers are in short supply in the NFL.
it was funny, because when he was starting for the raiders. Some of my friends (raider fans) thought hed be good.
Yes but they signed Tuiasasopo after Schaub was traded for, correct? I think that's right, and if it is, at that point the writing was on the wall for Carr. You don't give up those picks, and that type of money for a guy to compete for the job.
we should have got Carr, end of story, he is a starter but knows he would take smaller money for another chance.
David Carr would be the #2 QB and we have one in Clemens. We used a # 2 pick on him so they are epecting him to step up. The pressure we be applied to this guy by Mangini. He is going to get a lot more snaps in practice and the pre-season and we will find out if he can do it. At that point, we might need one but I doubt it becaue these guys are getting things right. We are the rise people.
Carr is not going to a team that will make him a back up. These guys wanta to be a starters and he would be a upgrade for plenty of teams
Exactly. I'd love to have Carr here to work out his kinks behind Chad and eventually take over, but it's not really plausible at this point. He's going to go where he can start right off the bat and probably on a decent team as well. It'd hurt the organization in the players' eyes if they committed to Chad being the starter going into camp and then bring in someone else to start over him right off the bat. Since they can't guarantee Carr that he'd be starting (he'd have to beat Chad), it's not happening.
This is one of those threads that makes me wonder how much time some of you have on your hands. If Tuiasasopo ever takes the field other than as a holder, we're in deep trouble. Look, we signed the guy to hold the clipboard, run the other team's offense in practice and be a good character guy. He's paid the veteran minimum...
You hit it right on the head Green Guy. If we see Tuiasasopo under center in a regular season game in 07' we're DONE and I'll be :drunk: Moving on to Carr I have 2 words, Ken O'Brien. He was a good NFL QB with a dynamite arm a pure pocket passer just like (bow your head) Namath. Only one problem he had no blocking.He became the NFL'S unofficial tackling dummy. Carr has turned in to the same person. Bad reads throwing the ball up for grabs. He's a walking interceptio machine. Who also by the way will command $$$. Although I hated the signing of Tuiasaopo it's only for a year.
Seriously, where does this stuff come from? Carr threw 65 interceptions in 2070 throws with the Texans. Thats a 3.14% interception rate. Chad Pennington, with much better protection and receivers has thrown 46 in 1659 attempts for a 2.77% interception rate. The difference is 1 interception every 270 throws...
