Everybody is talking about trading up to #2 and taking Leinart. If the Jets sign Schaub (who will be a pro bowler in his career) why not trade up & get Reggie Bush. The Texans have Dom Davis already & their biggest need is O-Line. They could pick up D'Brick at 4. The only problem is once if we trade Abe for Schaub then what can we offer the Texans (next year's #1 & #2 & the 2nd round pick this year that we get from the Falcons?)
Smokescreen by Jets brass.......trade Abe for Schaub and a high pick....trade down the number four for multiple picks..........
Agreed. The only way we trade UP from the 4 is if we're looking to grab Lienart. IMO he's the only guy we SHOULD trade up for.
You don't know that man. Could it turn out to be a bad move? Yes any move can. Could it turn out to be a good move as well? Absolutely.
That's the way I see it. If we end up getting a first rounder for Abe, and trade up to grab Lienart, I would have no problem with that.
I dont that bush will solve our biggest problem and obviously its QB. Go for lienhart if we were to trade up!
After much postulating, Leinart, Cutler, and Young, as well as some talented 2nd or 3rd round QB's deserve to come to NYJ and play. ALL will need grooming time. None should be put in our first game of the year next year. That said, I really can not see trading up. I just think we throw away picks/pick if we do that. We need all the picks we can get right now. If we were sitting at the #15 spot, I would probably feel differently, but we are at #4......in most years, that could be no-mans land, but not this year. If it is a QB we want, we win if we stay at 4.
The thing is if we trade Abe for a first rounder, and give up (say a second rounder) to move up, what are we really losing? In essence we would be moving up from the second round into the first, and from the #4 to the #2 in exchange for John Abraham.
Agree with the Hornet. Any of the top 3 QBs is a crapshoot (see 1999 QB draft for reference). You don't know which --if any--of these guys will be worth the pick, it's foolish to give up even more in this instance.
I am trying to figure your thinking here. So you are saying, we trade Abe for a first round pick, then give up that acquired first round pick plus our second round pick to move up 2 spots. OR, did you mean keep the acquired first round pick, which could be as low as #22 to #31, and trade our #4 pick plus our secound round pick to jump 2 spots. OK, I think I got it. We definitely lose Abraham and we definitely lose our second round pick in this situation. We end up with the #2 pick plus another pick around #22 to #31. I think that is what you meant. It is a very tough call...........this BTW, is not a ridiculous idea. The only thing is Abe is a proven commodity, while we are going for an unknown. I need to spend more time thinking about this. I am very 50/50.
Abe is a proven commodity, and if he were about 4 years younger (and actually wanted to be in a Jets uniform) i would be dead against doing this. Given the current situation though, I don't think it's a bad idea at all.
YEs, that has to be factored in. HE has definitely fallen from grace a bit; no doubt. I guess it is all pivotal on getting a #1 for Abe in the #22 to the #31 slot. If we get less for Abe (say a second rounder), and I know many may blow a gasket over this, I say don't do the deal at that point. If we get the first round pick for Abe then it actually doesn't look, too bad. It guarantee's us our pick of QB's. Back to the other statement. Yes, Abe could end up going for less than a first rounder. I am not saying he is not worth a first, but the market is tough this year for a guy who wants between a $10M to $18M signing bonus of guaranteed money and then a multi-year deal after that at at least $4M a year, if not more. The reason why I went with less on the yearly base is the franchised $8.33M/yr factors in the part that would be a signing bonus.
