CM is running steps at the Oakland Colasium right now. The itch is becoming a slow burn. The red phone on the Pengins desk is about to ring. Soon. Very soon.
I agree. Iget a kick out of fans who say he is unproven. The guy has played in place of LT in big games and did well. BecaUSE A GUY DOES NOTHAVE A 1000 CARRIES DOES NOT MEAN HE IS UNPROVEN. I get a bigger kick when I hear that SCHOTTY has no said a word about TURNER so he must be no good and is NOT wanted by the JETS. err the NFL rules dictate that he is under contract to SD and the JETS can not say anything about him and the JETS utilize a gag order on their asst coaches! So the talk about TURNER from SCHOTTY might never materialize but that does NOT mean that he doesn't want him.
the burner is the same age as leon washington has never averaged under 5.2ypc and has improved his ypc every season only 1 career fumble. has runs of 83 and 73 yrds the past two seasons. he did this as a BACKUP while non of our STARTERS were able to match this. DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET HIM!
ROFL!!!!!! common Winston... you can't honestly believe that. Houston and Washington... Houston is just not that good, and WAY over-valued here, while the opposite can be said for a guy who obviously has the tools, and currently resides in San Diego. Washington is a good complimetary back at this point in his carreer. He may DEVELOPE into a starter, but he's no where near ready. You don't know what Turner can do behind our offensive line. We don't know what any quality starting RB can do behind these guys, because we don't have a quality STARTING RB on the roster at this point. The only back that we had last year that could hit a whole with anything that resembled speed was Washington. Secondly, no one is saying we can't continue to build our offensive/defensice lines, but do we really need to do it with ANOTHER first rounder on Either side in a draft that is very deep in lineman? Lets stop and take off the blinders, ok. We need Turner more than any other back in the draft Vice Peterson. Why, umm he's played at this level, and with some success. He's Better than the any back we'll be able to draft in the first day where we currently pick, or without paying way to much to move up. We need a running game desperately to keep our defense off the field, and so we can chew up chunks of clock late into the game(Seems that this actually sounds like a Football PHILOSOPHY). And unfortunatly, contrary to popular belief here, you need a quality RB to do so, not running back by committee. Ellis
I don't see why it's such a weak notion. I can just as easily say that people are undervaluing Houston as a runner. Give him an O-line and he could be a steady back. And I can just as easily say that Turner gets his #'s in garbage time and it's hard to keep up with a player after they've just been beaten up by LT for 3 quarters. I'm not saying any of this. I just think it's silly to rationalize that Turner is the real deal and Houston is not based on what you stated. I see no "obvious" notions that Turner is the real deal. I don't think Houston is the long term answer, but for another year, until we get a real crop of RBs in the draft, I don't see it being a big deal. Aside from Peterson, I see no surefire RB in this draft (and I'm including the potential pickup of Turner in that statement). In my mind, our "stud" RB is not going to be on the team this year unless we trade up considerably for Peterson.
Don't base it on what I say, base it on there overall production. And I didn't really see any "Garbadge Time" for Turner. He was used in the same manor all year, giving LT a break whenever needed, and was always successful, hit holes with authority and he posseses legit breakaway speed, something no back in the 1 st day draft currently possesses (not that they are not fast... but Turner can fly) I'm hopin to see a whole new crop of RB's in house this season... the only one worth keeping on the roster at the moment is Washington, the rest are nothing but cannon fodder. Barlow-Waste, Blaylock-Waste, Houston-Waste, and except for Barlow, they are Duh Herm/Dingleberry hold overs. They'll be gone soon. Ellis
I am asking this out of curiosity - generally the people who support getting Turner do so citing the point that he is the "real-deal". A surefire, can't miss RB who will become a top 10 performer. Under this premise - would you be willing to "put your money where your mouth is". Would you be willing to trade Vilma straight up for him? Most people agree that Vilma would be equal to a 1st round pick value-wise. Most people would be willing to trade our 1st for Burner calling it a steal. Would you be willing to gamble a player of Vilma's stature for the Burner?
TBJ it's not dead at all... The Jets just can't say anything and they're playing their cards right making statements that they build through the draft.. I'm sure they set their VALUE of what they think of Turner and will now continue to evaluate Draft Prospects and other Players available and will be ready to pounce IF they see the Value..... Things certainly don't "DIE" during the period when teams just can't show their cards yet. It's VERY much alive.... And I'm for it. I think he'd be a great tandem with Leon.. Add some bulk to the right side of the OL and heck, just to piss you off we'll add Daniel Graham....
and you know for a fact that TURNER won't develop into a great RB? I'd give a 1 for a JOHN RIGGINS type.
I think it is fair to say the Jets are interested, but we will never hear anything until a deal or the deals are done. Mangini and Tann never will tip their hand. They will go about their business and only get something done if it makes good sense. I would not be at all surprised if they passed on Turner, especially if San Diego is adamant about a #1 pick.
Chargers put steep price on LT's backup By Kevin Acee UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER 4:56 p.m. February 28, 2007 The Chargers essentially have decided they want to keep running back Michael Turner one more season, as they will put the first- and third-round tender on LaDainian Tomlinson's backup, who rushed 80 times for 502 yards last season. The Chargers essentially have decided they want to keep running back Michael Turner one more season, as they will put the first- and third-round tender on LaDainian Tomlinson's backup. ?I'd just feel better to have him in '07,? General Manager A.J. Smith said Wednesday. ?If anything happens to LT ? God Almighty! ? that he gets hurt.? Smith would also gladly give up Turner for the two draft picks. Turner, a restricted free agent, can negotiate with other teams. But any team that signed him would owe the Chargers a first-round and a third-round draft pick. If Turner stays with the Chargers, he is guaranteed $2.35 million for 2007. The steep price in draft picks will likely keep other teams from coming after Turner. ?Obviously you want to get out in the free agent market if you can,? agent Bus Cook said earlier Wednesday before officially learning from the Chargers what the tender was. ?The ball is in their court. If it's a first and third, that cuts down the ballgame a lot.? Of course, Turner could still be traded after Thursday, but at that point any team that signs him would want to negotiate a long-term deal with Turner beforehand. Turner ran 80 times for 502 yards and two touchdowns last season. His ability to spell Tomlinson helped the NFL MVP stay fresh. http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20070228-1656-bn28chargers.html
I dont think it means that much as far as the Jets are concerned. The Broncos are in the market for a franchise RB, and the last thing SD would want is for a team in their own division to be able to walk away with him for a late 1st rd pick. Thats not to say they still wont trade him to the Jets for less than what the tender would call for in compensation
I don't know, you may be right but I think the tender speaks volumes to what there plan is for him.. and that is not good for those that wanted him.
That means very, very little. Everyone and their mother expected them to put this tender on him, and many expect a trade to be worked out for less than that (1st AND third) value.
Neither me or my mother expected this tender. We both expected the first round tender, not the 1st & 3rd..
