Who Would you rather have?? Vol. 1

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Given the current offensive systems I don't see either QB being successful if swapped. It's a tough question to answer because the systems are pretty much designed around the strengths of the QB's.

    If you want to take a look into the future and try to assume how well Chad would do with a new OC and Vick would do with Shotty, that's near impossible too. Who is even the coach of the Falcons now? Who is the OC?

    I think Vick would be better than he is now with better receivers. I remember him doing very well in the pro-bowl he made with good receivers, and I think shotty would be able to adapt to his strengths well.

    Chad has proven that he can pickup a new offense very quickly but with no knowledge of the OC I can't really even begin to speculate. This is an interesting question though.
     
  2. penny10jet

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    How can i possibly make an unbiased statement about this. I love Chad. Therefore, i am going to say with a bias i rather have Chad anyday of the week.
     
  3. Scikotic

    Scikotic Banned

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    so can anyone find Vick and Penninton's career records as starters because I cant seem to find them
     
  4. Brooks Brady

    Brooks Brady New Member

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    Only one of the players is a quarterback.....
     
  5. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    +---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | Passing | Rushing |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | 2000 nyj | 2 | 2 5 40.0 67 13.4 1 0 | 1 0 0 |
    | 2001 nyj | 2 | 10 20 50.0 92 4.6 1 0 | 1 11 0 |
    | 2002 nyj | 15 | 276 399 69.2 3120 7.8 22 6 | 29 49 2 |
    | 2003 nyj | 10 | 189 297 63.6 2139 7.2 13 12 | 21 42 2 |
    | 2004 nyj | 13 | 242 370 65.4 2673 7.2 16 9 | 34 126 1 |
    | 2005 nyj | 3 | 49 83 59.0 530 6.4 2 3 | 6 27 0 |
    | 2006 nyj | 16 | 313 485 64.5 3352 6.9 17 16 | 35 109 0 |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | TOTAL | 61 | 1081 1659 65.2 11973 7.2 72 46 | 127 364 5 |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+

    +---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | Passing | Rushing |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | 2001 atl | 8 | 50 113 44.2 785 6.9 2 3 | 29 300 1 |
    | 2002 atl | 15 | 231 421 54.9 2936 7.0 16 8 | 113 777 8 |
    | 2003 atl | 5 | 50 100 50.0 585 5.8 4 3 | 40 255 1 |
    | 2004 atl | 15 | 181 321 56.4 2313 7.2 14 12 | 120 902 3 |
    | 2005 atl | 15 | 214 387 55.3 2412 6.2 15 13 | 102 597 6 |
    | 2006 atl | 16 | 204 388 52.6 2474 6.4 20 13 | 123 1039 2 |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
    | TOTAL | 74 | 930 1730 53.8 11505 6.7 71 52 | 527 3870 21 |
    +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+

    Remember, one of the reasons why Chad had that many INTs this year is because he was in a situation to force it. Had he had a sufficient running game to back himself up, he wouldn't have thrown that many INTs.

    All in all, Chad is a QB that Vick will just never be.
     
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  6. brothermoose

    brothermoose Well-Known Member

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    Only on a Jets site...
     
  7. SOWELLisGOD

    SOWELLisGOD New Member

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    chad as a QB, vick as a receiver, maybe punt returner
     
  8. Jets81

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    I agree about Hacket. The guy got a bum rap because he tailored the offense around Pennington. Schots doing the same thing, but with a bit more flare. You would expect that from a Madden generation OC though.

    I'm not sold on Vick though. I'd still take CP over him at this point in both there careers. So CP can't run for first down, big deal. He looks to get the ball in his playmakers hands first. Thats a QB's job. I'm not conviced Pennington will lead us to a SB win, but I do believe we have a better chance with him then with the most overated QB in the league.
     
  9. Namath2Kolber

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    It's funny to say that Vick should be a running back or receiver but get real. The guy has a rocket arm and he's too brittle to take a regular beating.

    Meanwhile, let's get back to the numbers comparison. You can look at Chad's INTs this year and say that he had to force the ball in certain situations or that the games were closer. The reality is that Coles and Cotchery made Chad look good all year. That's not to say that he didn't play very well but there were not many times this season where Chad put the ball right in a receiver's chest and the receiver blew the play. Now look at Vick. His main receiving target, Alge Crumpler, led the league in dropped passes.

    I'll list the sure-handed WRs Chad has thrown to since he showed up. Chrebet. Santana. Coles. Cotchery.

    Now I'll list the sure-handed WRs Vick has thrown to in his career as starter.

    Does someone have access to one of those pay sites that analyze weird stats like how many passes are catchable? Because I think Vick would surprise you.
     
  10. jets95674137498

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    Vick would be nice to have if we were like, hard up for ticket sales. Other then that, I'll pass.
     
  11. Royal Tee

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    Imagine Chad's Brain in Vicks body... wow. That would be a 100% unstoppable QB!
     

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