I thought it said the Jets OR maybe i'm wrong but thats a bit of a difference for my money no thanks, he has about 2 years left at this lvl...
Maybe for a fourth (that we already traded for "set the" Barlow). That's the most I'd pay for his over the hill, under talented, just puts up good #'s cause he has chitown's line, ass. Otherwise, a total waste of a day 1 pick.
A soon to be 29 year old RB who has had what...one or two healthy/good seasons his whole career? I respect the hell out of Thomas Jones as a person. He's survived alot in the NFL, and he's a damn good player. Unfortunately his age doesn't fit this team, and his injury history as a RB at 29 could be a problem. I pushed for Jones a year ago because he seemed to fit everything Mangini wanted in a player. Now I feel like this team is headed in a much younger direction.
He has probably got more tread on his tires than the normal 29 year old because of his early career DNPs. I say get him if there are no better oprions. He is not a great back way better than anyone we have (as a fulltime RB), and he may have more years left than we think.
I would not mind picking up thomas jones for a cheap price. Im skeptical about michael turner for a first round pick. He may keep up the good numbers with another team.
These are the types of running backs I like. Jones has always been overlooked throughout his career, yet has produced at a very high rate. If you can get him for a good price and add him to our mix, it would be great. He and Washington can work in a tandem since they come from opposite styles. I'm starting to really like the RRBC rather than investing a whole lot into one player to make or break your entire position.
Pittman Someone please tell me you realized the picture of the jacked RB w/ the Tampa uni was Michael Pittman. Thomas Jones is in good shape but no one looks like Pittman. And for those of you who may be down on Jones b/c it took him some time to become a solid starter and playmaker there are a few people who wear blue and share Jets Stadium that can tell you about another RB who turned out to be pretty good after taking a few years to come into his own. That being said, unless it becomes a money issue I do not feel that he will be available.
thats too funny....he looks like a monster in that pick....but just take not that its BJ at QB for the bucs...that was a while ago....hes 28-29....i wouldnt give up a first day pick for him this year...hes got miiiiles on him. hes been hit more than i can count. be better off drafting bush in rd2 (i hate that kenny irons thought) and bring him into his own than trade for jones. but then, i think that it might be a possibility of getting turner for our first 2nd rounder....and maybe a pick from next year, like a 3rd or 4th.
Jones is toooooo old. I would not give up a draft pick for Turner. SC can't pay big money to two running backs. Turner has never been a every down back ... there is a question in my mind about his durability!!!!!!!! I would forgo the RB and look for a stud at DT and some roadgraders at G.:wink: Look to the draft for a RB & WR.:jets:
I enjoyed the read. While Jones seems qualified, he is going to want $$$, and he will cost us a pick. The Colts had their chance at him and eventually bawked; they drafted Joseph Addai (not a bad pick at all - he has proven to be very good). What I take from this is; if the Jets do their homework, I think they can do well in the draft. The player comes younger and a heck of a lot cheaper; at least for the first 3 to 4 years. I really think we should spend some of our cap relief on a key Defensive player or two, first, and hopefully no picks involved (this year) other than the compensatory pick the following year. The Jets have to keep getting better against the run. I think our RB will come out of the draft. I was looking at tape of Michael Bush, too. I like him, but...................I am not happy with how he keeps trying to go outside as a big man. I am not sure he will be successful with this in the NFL. He needs to be more of a North South runner to be productive in the NFL. Can he be coached????????
Pittman's arms are also riddled with tattoos... and if you look close... its clear the number is 22 and not 32. And believe it or not, Pittman is BIGGER than that.
it didnt take him that long....hell, at retirement, hes 31, thats only what, 2-3 years older? no way, no how, no thank you. TJ is not the answer....id go either turner, or a rookie outta the draft. EDIT: ot took the giants a few years to believe in him, not for him to be a solid starter....they kept drafting RBs to 'carry the load' because he "couldnt" by himself....jones is in no way NEAR him in skill, athleticism, or field vision. let them have their controversy in chicago next year, i hope were debating a move that doesnt include TJ...because if he comes here, its def a 'same old jets' move.
a high rate? the first 4 years of his career he didnt even compare to turners #'s in PT duty....and when he got 240 carries in 2004 he didnt hit 1000 yds. yes he has had at least 1200 yds the past 2 years, but those came on around 300 carries each season (305 carries per year avg). he has had over 100 carries each year in the nfl, but only 2001 and 2006 did he play a full 16 game sched. granted, turners most carries in a season has been 80, but thats due to who hes behind, rather than durability. hes played 14-16-13 games in each of his 3 seasons respectively. hes also avg 6 ypc, but i think thats more due to his # of carries (although its still impressive, i think we can agree on that). also, jones longest run from scrimmage is a very curtis-like 61 yds. turners is 83...that was last year, this season his longest was 73. im sorry to say, as much as i loved watching curtis, i dont want another back that cant break the big one. how many times did we watch martin get caught from behind? i want a rb thats gonna get into the end zone, well, at least has the wheels and a chance to get in from further than midfield. curtis was a grind out the yards, bend the d but never break them RB....im sorry, but ive had my fill and i want a RB thats going to grind, AND be able to break the defense....jones aint that guy. if were talking about aquiring a RB from another team, then wed be stupid not to take turner. aside from everything else, hes 4 years younger than jones. as far as RBBC goes....no. yes we need 2 backs, as does any good team, but i think youre losing the real meaning of the term. RBBC is a mix of 3 backs that play on any given sunday and split their playing time. a LW/jones-turner set up isnt that. we would have a back who carries the bulk, the latter, and a back that will change the pace/3rd down player. its more akin to martin/jordan than RBBC....except that the back up has tremendous speed and the ability to change the game on a given play. RBBC isnt something that will make this team better, having 2 backs that we can count on every week, and have the running game predicated on and set up for will benefit the team.
What you're describing is IMO exactly what we need. We need that guy who get consistently pickup 3.5 yards a carry and wear down the defense with a physical, downhill running style. Imagine what Neon Leon could do against worn down defenses with his quick and shifty style. Jones/Washington would be a very good tandem IMO. He's 29, but if he's cheap and we can get 2 good years out of him that would be optimal in the potential development of Washington into a feature back. Turner is WAY to expensive - we're not going to get him for anything less than a first round pick. There's only one RB in the league worth that.
im not trying to pick an arguement, but by saying im describing what we need, and then inject jones as that guy goes against everything i said. my whole shpiel was jones aint the guy. i think were hanging too much value on the 1st rounder. at 26, depending on what it is the FO wants to do, it may be better to take turner with our first pick, and address the needs with our second round picks. let me ask you this....turner is going to cost a first rounder...would you be willing (you, not the FO) to take turner, swap 1st rounders with SD, and give up both our second rounders? i could see the FO getting creative in order to make a move like this. even though TJ may come at a cheaper price, cheaper doesnt = better. yes he has talent, but he wouldnt be in the nfl if he didnt, and if he was THAT good benson wouldnt be on him for the starting job in chi town. the big diff between jones and turner is jones is getting pushed out of chicago. turners contract is comming up. sorry, but id rather not get their castoff, and get someone of value. a 1st round pick is an investment in the future, and thats what we would be doing with turner. only this investment has got his nfl chops, and hes got tons of untapped potential. jones is only a now back, and were building the team for a run in another year or 2....thats one of the biggest reasons i think jones isnt the right move. who knows....id never claim to know much, but im pretty confident that TJ is the wrong way to go....even without turner....
