As long as everything about "college production" is considered, not just what comes off a stat page. Production over how long a period? Consistency of that production. Quality of opponents. Production in all types of weather. Understanding the difference between whatever level of NCAA football they played and the NFL. Ability to stay on the field. Ability to adapt to a different game. I could probably list a dozen more but it goes far beyond what many would call "college production." Throwing a rehearsed bomb to an undefended receiver in a controlled environment doesn't count much but some would call it college production.
Kronoking well said. drafting a QB with a high value pick every year is not practical. How has it worked the last 50 years? The Jets had the high QB prospect proven to be SB winning quality that had all of the measurables you want from a QB prospect, and instead of drafting Ja'Marr Chase in 2021 to give Darnold a legit WR, the Jets decide to draft Wilson after only 3 years and an embarrassing bad team around Darnold. Zach WIlson who is likely the NFL worst starting QB ever to get over 30 career starts. But hey, he is a QB so lets give him a high 1st round draft pick shot.. So they did try it your way, and failed miserably. The NFL barely practices, they do not have enough reps to evaluate QBs, they barely have enough reps to get their starting QB ready. You cannot have multiple QBs in today's NFL vying for the starting job. Where has that ever worked? Ty Simpson is not a 1st round QB. Not by a long shot. Its actually laughable. He is below average height, weight, athleticism and arm strength. All that while being severely lacking in experience. How can he possible be considered in the 1st?!? I wouldn't be happy with him in the mid 2nd. What would the Jets plan be if they draft Ty Simpson in the 1st or at 33 and then go on to win 5 games and fire Aaron Glenn? The Jets will be straddled with a poor QB prospect that a new coach will have to inherit and develop. If you think Aaron Glenn is bad, the next coach will be 10 times worse facing that situation. The Jets cannot draft Ty Simpson under any circumstance.
I disagree. The conventional way of using a high pick. Throwing him in the fire and watching him burn is the opposite of what we need to do. This team needs a culture change. Competitive snaps at practice. Working for every minute of playing time. 16th overall on a flyer that will push whoever next years coaching staff drafts high in my opinion is exactly what this team needs. Not just next year take the consensus best QB just like Wilson and Darnold and hope he is Joe Namath. Nah, I’ve seen that movie and the sequel. Draft Ty who is a Daniel Jones 2.0 caliber prospect and then in 2027 draft the blue chipper to compete against each other and hold each other accountable.
I am not saying draft a QB with a high pick next year. If the QB is worthy, maybe, but not need to push it. KC, years ago, were a perennial playoff team with a retread QB in Alex Smith. KC was good with Smith, real good, just not Super Bowl good. They identified a talented QB in the draft and made a move for him with an already built team. The Jets are terrible, They suck. They need to build a team. Any QB will fail miserably on the Jets. The Jets in this NY negative market will never succeed with a young inexperienced, not ready to play QB. never. like they never have in the last 50+ years. Ty Simpson is not half the QB prospect Daniel Jones was. are you kidding me? Daniel Jones is 6'5" with high sneaky athleticism. How does that compare to Ty Simpson? Even remotely, because it does not. Maybe they have similar arm strength, but that is not nearly enough to be a successful NFL QB. Daniel Jones, that may be the worse comp I have ever heard of any player, seriously???
Where are the Jets going to put all of those quarterbacks? You can't just trade high pick QBs away every other year (since we're assuming they are all busts) or you will get no value for those picks and your cap situation will get idiotic. So unrealistic.
I think what most people miss about the QB position coming out of college is that they are still learning and growing as players. You can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit, but a lot of NFL success boils down to coaching and development. Josh Allen had an under 50% completion percentage at Wyoming playing against Mountain West competition. You can learn accuracy. You cant learn arm strength or size. That being said you also can't coach drive and determination. That comes from within. You can hope to spark it but the player needs to have that inside. I wouldn't be mad with picking Pavia in the late rounds and see what happens. Drew Allar has all the tangibles you want to see in a QB but has none of the intangibles.
Of course all must realize that in the NFL there is no such thing as a proven prospect. The Jets biggest error in what you cite was in getting rid of Darnold when they drafted Wilson instead of keeping him on his rookie contract at the same time. Having a legitimate QB coach may have been a good idea as well. As far as your question to the masses, Bledsoe and the guy who eventually replaced him was a pretty dynamic duo.
Agree they should have kept Darnold, he was a legit QB prospect, why not keep him for the 5 years to see what you have while the Jets still needed to rebuild with new GM and coach, but how does drafting a poor QB prospect, and Zach Wilson was as poor of a QB prospect as there is, he played a COVID schedule that consisted of any team willing to play BYU that year, vs drafting a legit talented WR in Ja'Marr Chase help the team? Ja'Marr Chase would have helped the Jets vastly more than a poor QB prospect ever could. But you are advocating in drafting poor QB prospect every year until you get it right, meanwhile none of the QBs will ever get reps to actually develop. If you are going to draft a 1st round rookie QB, he better look like Darnold, with good height, weight, athleticism, arm strength, college production and experience. Ty Simpson falls way short in every area possible. He is a poor mans Mac Jones, why not just sign Mac Jones next year as a free agent vs wasting a draft pick and years of development for an undersized, lack of talent in Ty Simpson? The Pats did not draft Brady with a high draft pick while having Bledsoe and Bledsoe was not a developmental QB, he was very season vet. If you want the Jets to get a seasoned vet and draft Day 3 QBs, I am fine with that. You just can't waste 1st and 2nd rounders on developmental QBs when your team is trash. You need to draft starters to have an actual team that can compete on the field. I would want the Jets to draft a late round QB this year in Nussmeier, Allar, Beck. Those guys are not far off as prospects vs Ty Simpson and will not cost a high draft pick.
