The most recent scuttlebutt from nfl.com has Hall and Quinnen as players that are receiving quite a few inquiries. All I know is this team/organization has long been viewed as an "easy" organization to screw over. "If it can be fucked up, the Jets are one of those organizations that will fuck it up." So to speak. Personally, if it were me, I wouldn't trade shit. The ONLY players I'd want gone no other team would be stupid enough to pick them up unless fully desperate. I want this organization to become a place where players not only want to come here but want to STAY. How many former players/FO people hang around the building or you see them walking the sidelines? Zero? 1, possibly 2? Unlike teams like the Steelers, Ravens, Packers...49'ers. There are always former players et. al. hanging out and/or visiting. You don't build that kind of long lasting organization by throwing away the fraction of talent previous GM's were LUCKY enough to hit on. Just my own personal opinion.
Great post. Hall is a guy you build around. One of the team's few first-rate talents. Transition him-- especially because Allen is coming off major injury when some idiot decided to have him return kicks. (????)
IMO Carter is the only trade candidate and maybe Williams the LB since he has small salary and will be a free agent next year.
Nobody was easier to fleece than former jets GM Mike McCagnan. Unbelievably, he gave up THREE second round picks to move up just three spots in the 1st round. AND, he made the trade a month BEFORE the draft so he wasn't even sure who would be there in his new spot. Dumb shit. There is a reason why McCagnan and Kotite never found work again in the NFL after their tenure w the jets.
Kind of like that Jacksonville/Cleveland trade in “Draft Day” with Costner! Only that stupidity was a movie!
I presume there's contract and or cap limitations on this idea, but wonder if a team like the 49ers would be interested in Sherwood. He's disappointed this year and got benched for a portion of last week's game.
Some smoke about not trading Hall from boy green, I hope they spoke to him about his desire to come back next year before making that decision. Wouldn't hate it if they sign him over the bye to a reasonable extension, maybe they were able to huge the market these last couple weeks.
You can trade Sherwood ( Jet_Mosely 2.0) too. Hasn't done much since the payday. Makes a play now and then, vanishes for quarters at a time.
Blatt put out his trade deadline predictions. It’s good but in summary he thinks: Quincy - traded for a 4th or 5th MC2 - traded for late round pick Everyone else stays unless they can get: A fourth for Hall A second for McDonald A haul for Q or JJ
I think this team has enough talent and pieces that you want to stay competitive and keep morale up. I worry that trading key, young pieces sends the wrong message and sets them back. There are needs for sure, but this roster isn't a to-the-studs gut job. You find solid QB play and it's already on a different level.
I'm on the other end of it but we agree on what we should do. I think this roster is so void of talent that we can't trade actual talent away then pray we can hit on some day 3 picks. That seems counterintuitive to me. It's not like we're going big game hunting at QB next year and if all goes well we'll be spending peanuts on a QB for the next 5 years. Sauce and Garrett extensions kick in but that doesn't mean you can't pay guys like Breece and Quincy. Will the FO want to pay an RB top dollar when he might not be worth it and they need to find other pieces? Will the FO want to pay two LBs big money until the one that's a bust (Sherwood) is cuttable? To me, you can do that financially and in terms of actual production it's a no brainer. Not even going to entertain the thought of trading Q, JJ or even McDonald because barring a haul of picks that involves at least one 2nd rounder, that would be asinine.
It's interesting about Sherwood and that's why I speculated can he be traded at this point if this regime feels the same way. Would they rather bring back Quincy, roll with Mauioga and add another LB in free agency or the draft. I doubt it, but it's a thought. Sometimes we overstate the talent here, but I do think this is a solid roster. The biggest problems have been QB play and coaching. To me they have: -A legitimate stable of backs (with Breece) -A high impact starting WR -An up and coming rookie TE with some depth -Bookend tackles and possibly a full solid OL. Maybe you can upgrade one interior OL spot but it's not terrible and depends if you bring back AVT on a prove-it -Bookend DEs and solid interior DL -At least one good starting LB -Very solid stable of CBs -One possible starter at a safety spot with Moore What they need: 1. Franchise QB (no big deal) 2. WR2 3. One starting safety 4. WR 3 5. One starting LB 6. Base DE and depth In theory, things that can largely be addressed in just one offseason
I agree, and we’re not setting up for a SB in 2027. We need to go back to the basics of building a competitive team, and that starts with getting the buy in from the team by taking care of the nucleus. Hall is going to be looking for 10-15m per year, pay him. It’s not going to kill our cap to keep him around.
My view on the roster is not too far off from yours in that I don’t see this team as an 0-17 or 1-16 type roster…I think we are playing at that level due to bad coaching on the defensive side, and terrible QB play on the offensive side…you can see that when Fields plays decent, we can move the ball and put up points…we really should have won that Pitt game and we did win the Cincy game (albeit against the worst defense in the league). So I don’t think this should be a TEAR DOWN and rebuild deal like what JD had to do. I think if we had better coaching we’d have won the Pitt game and maybe one or two others. However, I differ on one thing…I think we need to prioritize edge much more than it looks like you do…I do not think we are set there at all. I think JJ can hold one end down and hopefully will be better next year with more time removed from his injury…however, McD who can be explosive at times, just does not seem to be an every down player…he has disappeared for way too many stretches. He sure looks like a dynamic pass rush third down specialist kind of guy, much like Saled used to use Huff. I would list our needs as 1. QB for sure 2. WR2 3. DE/Edge 4. S 5. IOL if we can upgrade at C The one thing that has changed for me is that Stephens, who was terrible to start the year, seems to have settled in by now and is playing at a decent level…not saying I wouldn’t draft a CB if the draft fell that way, but I actually feel much better with our top three of Sauce, Stephens, and Brownlee now than I did 4 weeks ago. But the other side of the problem is that we really don’t have any players worth much in trade…yes I hear we’re getting calls about Breece and Q, but trading either guy for middling draft picks just creates more holes when we have plenty to fill already. I wouldn’t trade either guy honestly…Breece on an expiring contract isn’t going to bring back much, and if it’s a 5th or even a 4th I’d rather keep him and try to resign him for next year. Q I wouldn’t trade unless it’s like a Jamal Adams type deal, and I don’t think we’re getting anywhere near that…I sure as fucking shit wouldn’t trade him for a 2nd rounder….a first would be my starting demand and then I’d add on an additional pick like a 3rd on top of that, but honestly, even then, we’d be trying to refill the DL while still really needing our top two picks to take a QB and a WR. So no, if it’s my call, I’m not in the trade market for those two guys…sure I’d trade a few of the other guys like many here are saying, but those are not huge moves…Quincy would be the biggest move of the rest, and honestly while he does commit a bonehead roughing penalty way too often, and sometimes overrruns plays, he does play with speed and energy and that becomes contagious…I’d not rush to get rid of him, and wouldn’t do it for peanuts if I did My two cents… But if history proves out, I’m sure whatever the Jets actually do will be much much worse than what we are all suggesting here on this board…that’s the way it’s been for decades
I don’t think we’re in that bad of shape talent wise. Bad franchises become good franchises with some good players as a core and a lot of good choices in the mid-rounds and lower tier free agent decisions to fill the roster out. I think the defense is way better than it’s performed. They were disorganized as fuck early in the year. It made zero sense but even despite the somewhat bad showing vs. Bengals, it wasn’t a scheme deficiency with free running receivers all over the place.
I am hoping we keep breece. He’s done a pretty damn good job on a team that hasn’t even had a qb for near 8 weeks
