I remember huge, ongoing arguments last year about whether Rodgers and the starters should play during the preseason. Since Saleh and Ubrich and Rodgers decided it wasn't really necessary, we only saw the scrubs on the field and of course, the regulars looked like 22 guys who had no idea how to play together. I'm hoping Glenn changes all of that and the meritocracy that was under Saleh is finally gone. Everybody needs to play and the CS can't be scared of the injury bug as familiarity is key to success. The Coaches need to know what they have to work with. The players need to know the other guys on their specific units. Nobody gets a pass as there's no "Royalty" on the roster anymore. Everybody needs to get sweaty and dirty and ready to play on opening day. No passes, no one is too important to play during the preseason. The Rodgers/Saleh/Ulbrich country club days are over. For better or worse.. Its All Hands on Deck!!
Eh…I don’t know…honestly I’m not a big fan of playing starters much in preseason…all I do is hold my breath while I watch The injury risk is just too high, and especially when we have such a thin roster depth-wise, I just don’t need to see the starters play much in the preseason…
The expectation for this team for the most part is 7 wins. That's with everybody healthy. We learned last year that the starters have to play in preseason if for no other reason to get used to playing at game speed under a new system and coaching. That's what preseason is for. You can't be so terrified of injuries that you sacrifice the first several games of the regular season so that the starters are seeing their first live action. If some starter gets hurt? That's what your bench is for. If you have nothing on your bench? You have more work to do before you can dream of 8 or 9 wins. Point being, there's no superstars on this roster. No experience on the sidelines as a unit either. You have to get that experience so, get it during preseason.
The offensive players definitely need to play as much during the preseason as possible. Fields didn't play much after his early benching last season in addition to the fact that he's going onto his third team in three years.
Meritocracy? I think a lot of guys got playing time last season because they were A-rog’s pals, not on merit.
True. A few guys got playing time because (Gipson) had one play that Saleh thought was the norm but turned out to be an outlier. Rodgers was the defacto OC for the most part. Those factors are no longer present, so guys need to actually earn their roster spot and playing time.
Spot on Cman. It’s time players earn their way to the starting lineup based on field performance and team effort. And it starts in training camp and preseason to develop the right chemistry.
Eh. To me it depends. The Jets defense was nasty under Coach Saleh it's difficult for me to criticize his method because of that. The problem was the offense as it's been for the majority(?) of their history. I get what you're saying but they just re-signed Wilson & Sauce to enormous contracts and I really don't need to see them being put at risk for long in meaningless preseason games. Especially with the organization's seemingly cursed history.
I’m a bit more indifferent on this. Teams do varying things that work. Some play their guys. Some don’t. Some that play their guys end up with bad results and some with good results and vice versa. It always a smart idea until Chad Pennington breaks his wrist on a freak play.
This and This!!!! I have NEVER been more disgusted with NFL football, in general, as much as I've been the last 10 years-ish. My god in heaven, every football coach I ever had would roll in their grave if I played and tackled like these prima donna's. I don't give a shit. Every single one of these New York Jets better play at LEAST half the pre-season. HALF!!!! I'm sick of watching while the "starters" take an entire quarter of the season to figure out how to fucking tackle and/or show they are on the same page!!!! You know who wishes their starters would play? Bengals fans! I'll bet their fans are LIVID when they see their "1's" riding the pine during the pre-season. Shit, it's cost them playoff spots the last 2 years minimum. No sir, I want our player's asses on that field playing! DAMN RIGHT that's what the bench is for.
So when a starter goes down for the year during a meaningless preseason game, what are people going to say? Obviously they should see SOME action but I can already see disaster striking. Maybe I just have PTSD from this team.
Great idea in theory Then, when the superstar gets hurt, we will have second thoughts to me you save your number ones for the real thing because you get to win with them and that counts! preseason wins never count
Agree, my two cents: I believe that when a team is literally starting from scratch, with new coaching, new expectations, brand you game plan, brand new system and philosophy, not to mention new QB, is absolutely essential for the starters to play some in pre season to develop the rhythm and chemistry you can only get in a game. I’m not saying pushing the envelop, keep it vanilla but work out the timing, the routes, clean up the the kinks. We have been traditionally dismal in preparation coming out of the gate. Jets are not coming off a 13 game winning season with mostly all returning starters. The term meaningless preseason is hugely overblown. Two years ago we lost AR in play four game one, and the timing and efficiency of the OL and the QB for the first three plays was dismal, as if they never play together. That is just as big a contributor to injuries and riskier than playing a hand full of snap in pre season.
Said it before so I might as well repeat myself. Pre-season is for getting fit for the new season, now in 'soccer' that means getting in shape physically and gelling with any new signings that have been made. In the NFL it means something else completely, half the time is given to players that will never see the squad and then the 1s are taking far too long to gel and be game-ready when the real action starts. Yes, injuries can occur in preseason games, that is life and you have to deal with that as it happens, but first teamers getting hit for real in the first match can just as easily be injured due to being under prepared. Anyway
They treat the preseason the same now as they did 30 years ago. Isn’t that odd? Seems like at some point a coach would come around with some new ideas on how to get ready for the season
Plenty of coaches have said joint practices are more productive than preseason games. Those are for getting the starters some reps against NFL caliber opponents. Preseason games are for figuring out the bottom quarter of your roster. I’m all for the starters playing a few series but overall, I don’t think it’s that important to have them play a full half like game 3 used to be.
