Shedeur Sanders

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  1. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Especially when you don't have elite talent or arm talent to be talking in the ways he was about NFL teams. They went into business for themselves, without actually being good enough to do so.

    His arm is worse than ANY starting QB in the NFL right now. Nobody will be able to convince me otherwise until I see otherwise.
     
  2. K'OB

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    Well as much as I din't really want him at the Jets a 5th rounder is nothing to throw away by taking a chance.

    I'm not fussed either way, that Brady Cooks tape looks as good as Sanders.

    Sanders will have a chip on his shoulder the size of the empire state building, it may have done him some long term good, a reality check on keeping quite and knuckling down and getting the hard work done.
     
  3. Sundayjack

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    I think Shedeur’s drop was more a reflection on the weakness of the QB class than his attitude. Anyone yammering about anything else is starved for interweb material. When his dad came out, he had maybe the worst attitude of any draft pick EVER, at least to that point. Somewhere there’s an old SI article where you can’t not come away thinking - I don’t want this dick anywhere near my team. That’s not what happened here. Every QB on the board this year was being overvalued in pre draft rankings - Cam Ward included. The way this QB class dropped, NFL draft rooms agreed. Once those teams who couldn’t leave the draft without a QB checked that box, throw the rest in a hat and pick one - nothing lovable about any of them. After Round 1, the only person who came away happy about this QB draft was Kyle McCord.

    That said, I’d have never wasted a No. 1 pick on Cam Ward, and I’d have taken Shedeur over Jaxson Dart in Round Anything.
     
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  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Ward might be one of the weakest #1 overalls I can remember. I liked what he was doing and building on at Washington State until the back half of his year when teams rushed 3, dropped 8 and he was absolutely lost as to how to complete passes. I’m not huge on made up analytic stats but he was also very high on “turnover-worthy plays” throughout his career. Turnover-worthy players that aren’t turnovers in college result in NFL turnovers.

    Great humble kid though. I’m rooting for him.
     
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  5. Sundayjack

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    Hehe. I just love how that reads. With the added bonus of being true.
     
  6. mezzavo

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    Yes sir, I did mean Hunter. Fixed that. Thanks!

    I'm wondering what you and @Jonathan_Vilma are thinking now, after what the entire NFL just confirmed in my mind. I believe, somewhere, I said Sanders was AT BEST a 3rd rounder maybe 2nd round. Wow, was I WAY off. 5th round makes a lot more sense to me. The only thing that kid has going for him, right now, is accuracy. Weak arm, can't read defenses, happy feet, lack of ideal size...the list goes on. The ONLY reason this kid was on "the radar" was BECAUSE, I'll say it again BECAUSE of who his dad is. To be frank, I don't think Cleveland is the best spot for him either. For him to have a shot in holy hell of sticking in the NFL, as a BACKUP, is he somehow gets under the wing of a coach in San Fran, Minny or Los Angeles. Someone like that. The Browns burn through rookie QB's like the Jets do. I don't hold out much hope for young Sanders. All I'm thankful for is the Jets FINALLY didn't do the stupid thing and draft him.
     
  7. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I don’t really tend to care what validation you or the NFL feels based on where he’s drafted. If he sucks and never gets anywhere, you and the league were right in watching him tumble down the boards. If he has a good career you and the NFL were silly in your evaluation so we’ll see.

    There’s also this so there were a lot more moving parts to this thing that bare bones talent evaluation. Boomer has always been pretty plugged in and alleges that owners forced him off some teams draft boards.

    https://x.com/WFAN660/status/1916866241769386362
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Clearly it wasn’t about anything on the field

    Cleveland is where QBs go to die though, I do agree with that
     

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