Jets pick 7th in 2025 draft!

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  1. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    I can’t subscribe to Membou. The dude flew up the boards after the combine, and this is such a deep OT class. You can get a guy like Ersery in round 2 and he end up being just as good. It’s astonishing how many great OT’s there are in this class.
     
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    joelip Well-Known Member

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    I also will have mixed feelings if Jeanty is there at pick 7. To summarize:

    1. RB is a devalued position (short shelf life for the position, ready availability of good RB’s in the middle and later rounds, etc.);

    2. The Jets are already deep at RB and have numerous and severe holes at other positions;

    3. Hall, our primary RB, has shown flashes of exceptional ability when healthy, raising the possibility that his inconsistencies have been due to minor injuries which may at some point heal and allow his underlying brilliance to emerge;

    4. Many Jets players have underperformed in recent years, at least partly due to poor coaching; and

    5. Trading Hall is likely to represent a squandering of resources, since he was drafted in the second round but is unlikely to fetch more than a fourth round pick, given his inconsistency to this point and the overwhelming flood of good RB’s available in the 2025 draft.

    On the other hand:

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    Jeanty has shown truly exceptional abilities, far greater than those shown by his peers;

    2. The RB position is seeing an increase in significance and appreciation, as is apparent in Barkley’s 2 year, $41M contract extension;

    3. The scouting community generally seems to believe that the best strategy in the draft is to select the best players available and not to put too much emphasis on drafting to fill position weaknesses; and

    4. According to many sources, Jeanty is the most talented player in the draft and so represents a bargain at pick 7.​

    When I see Jeanty run, I see a RB with the potential to have a career like LaDainian Tomlinson. This begs the question:

    If you believe that Jeanty has the ability to match Tomlinson’s career, do you draft him and forget about other considerations?
     
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  3. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    Yes. This is a deep, high floor, low ceiling draft. Solid players are available in later rounds and most of the players we are considering at 7 aren’t game changers.

    This is one of the few years I’d be OK with an insane first round pick. I’m sure the scouting department won’t disappoint me.
     
  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes guys fly up the draft boards because of their workouts and what not and sometimes the perception is just that they flew up the draft boards because pre-combine mocks and reporting is lazy.

    Membou was probably always going to be a first round pick whether he had an incredible workout or not, it just wasn’t reported or talked about a lot since he was probably an end of the first round guy. He moved himself up, but I don’t think it was this jump from like the fourth round to the first round.
     
  5. NJJets

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    I agree he was a first round pick all along. But he was ranked around 7th overall, then flew up to 1st overall after the combine. What I’m saying is Campbell/Banks/Membou are only marginally better than Ersery/Millum/Cam Williams, who can all likely be had in round 2. There are 12 OT prospects in this draft that can step in as a day 1 starter, especially at OT. Moving Membou from 7 to 1 as if he’s some overtly greater prospect than any of them is silly. They’re all really good, and a good reason to not use the 7th overall pick on taking an OT.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    who do you want them to select at 7
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but you’re looking at opinionated rankings which is the point I’m making. I don’t think in the eyes of scouts that watch the tape Membou has had some gargantuan leap.

    I’m also not sure you can look at who you take at 7 based on when you project you can get a potentially lesser player at the same position in the second or third round. 2021 was a “deep” tackle draft too but I don’t think the Lions regret taking Sewell in the top ten (albeit a better prospect than Membou obviously).
     
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    Jeanty had 1,970 yards rushing after contact in 2024. He rushed for more yards after contact than any other player's total rushing yards in the nation. Let that sink in.

    With all the rules protecting offensive players from the type of brutal tackling that was commonplace 20 years ago, Jeanty should feast on NFL defenses.

    This kid is elite. Pete Carroll wants his new superstar back like he had with Marshawn in Seattle. The Raiders most likely take him at 6.
     
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    Personally I feel like we have a pretty darn good RB room already with Hall, Allen and Davis, so I’d rather lean in another direction with 7, preferably OT because until we fix this OL, the offense will suck. We need to deal with it with the best possible player. I don’t get too hung up on the “value” discussions because so much can happen between your first and second picks. If you have a guy you like at your pick, sometimes you can get too cute trying to maneuver and play the value game. So personally, I think that OT, WR, TE, and DL (both DT and DE) are all bigger needs than RB, and if you have a worthy player at one of those spots I’d rather take them.

    That being said, if the RB is there at 7, and he really is all that, I wouldn’t cry too much if he was pick…a weapon is a weapon, and by all accounts this kid is elite. Shit, Henry carried those Titans teams, Saquon carried the Giants offenses and was a huge part of Philly’s success, so yeah, I wouldn’t bitch all that much, but I’d probably be happier with an OT at that spot. Or a trade down into the mid teens and if you can net an additional 2nd rounder that’d be hard to pass up.
     
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    I've been pretty detached from this draft process relative to most years. I haven't watched much film or anything. We have many holes so I'm not married to drafting any particular position.

    Membou seems solid, wouldn't dislike the pick.

    I like the idea of Warren. He's big and tenacious, strong at the point of catch, runs very physically, seeks out contact etc. Seems to have the sort of mindset you want in your locker room. I just hope this entire TE class isn't being overrated on the heels of Bowers' success last year.

    Can anyone comment on Warren's blocking ability?
     
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    Seems solid, but not elite. Could be because he was a focal point of the offenses, so the focus was more on being a weapon. He appeared to have blocked a lot better a year before when he was splitting time with another TE. He has the size and athletic ability for it though, so I think could be developed into a good blocker in the NFL. I would not mind at all getting him or Membou. DT Graham would be good too, but likely will be gone by #7.

    So for me realistically it is either:
    - Warren at #7 and then a RT round 2 and a DT/WR round 3/4 OR
    - Membou at #7, a WR in round 2, and then DT/TE round 3/4
     
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    Hard to argue w that!
     
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    I was listening to ESPN radio this morning as they did a mock draft. They have Membou goin to the Pats, and the Jets trading with the Browns for their second first rounder this year pick 32, plus second and third this year, and the first and fourth in 2026. Browns pick Sanders with our 7th and Hunter with their 1st creating the Colorado Browns. I would take than in a heartbeat.
     
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    Being very honest, I feel paralyzed about it. If we take a player just by positional value alone we’d draft OT or DT, both of which I feel are the least of our needs. If we take what we desperately need in my opinion, an offensive weapon, I feel we’d have to reach on a guy like Warren or McMillan. My hope is that we trade down and add some picks, most desirably a 1st rounder next year. I just don’t know that there will be a player that another team desires to move up for. But if you’re holding my feet to the fire I look at our first 2 picks in tandem, and I think we’d be much better off with Warren and Ersery in the first 2 rounds vs Membou and Mason Taylor, Jaylin Lane, or like Tre Harris.
     
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    Trade speculations aside, I can definitely see Pats going with Membou at #4. Campbell is a guard. The wingspan is just too small and he is not this amazing prospect that Slater was, and even Slater has longer arms. Campbell will have to beat MAJOR odds against him to be a good OT, and it is very possible the Pats will not bet on that. Campbell can be a very good guard though, but Membou can be a very good tackle. It is very possible Pats would take him instead.

    In this case, I would not pick Campbell at 7 for the same reason: we need a sure OT, not a Guard. Between Campbell and Warren, I would definitely pick Warren.
     
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    that would be great. I hope the raiders do take him at 6, it means someone will fall to us.

    I don’t agree on Jeanty. Good player, not top 10 worthy. He offers nothing in the passing game. These days RBs need to catch the ball
     
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    If Membou is gone I’m hoping for a small trade down, if not I would be happy with Warren.
     
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    The reports I’ve read have insisted that Jeanty is actually a fine receiver. They point to his leading the nation in RB reception yards in 2023, and they explain his lack of receptions in 2024 as the natural result of a deliberate plan by Boise State to pile up his rushing caries to break college rushing records.

    Here’s an AI summary:

    Yes, Ashton Jeanty is considered a strong receiving back. He has demonstrated significant receiving prowess, particularly in the 2023 season, where he led the nation among running backs in receiving yards. Jeanty's ability to excel as both a runner and receiver has made him a highly sought-after prospect.
    Elaboration:
    • Strong receiving stats:
      Jeanty's 2023 season saw him amass 569 receiving yards and 5 receiving touchdowns, making him a top performer in college football.
    • Versatile skillset:
      Jeanty's ability to be effective as a receiver adds another dimension to his already impressive rushing capabilities.
    • High draft projections:
      Jeanty's dual-threat abilities have positioned him as a top-tier prospect in the 2025 NFL Draft.

    • That being said, I hope that he goes before pick 7 because I like the Jets’ RB situation.
     
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    I really like Brett Whitefield's scouting, he's usually different from everyone else and more importantly right about it. Membou has been his #1 OT the whole way. A lot of times these guys "fly up the boards" because the people reporting on this don't actually know what they're talking about.
     
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    • The more I read the more it seems that many analysts think there is more depth and less separation of talent at the TE position than at OT, particularly for RT. For whatever is worth, many feel that if presented with the choice of OT and TE with the first and second pick, you are better going Membou if available or even Will and best TE with the second pick than Warren and best OT with the second pick. I will be the first to admit I don’t have enough depth to even begin to pass judgement on that but I sure hope our talent evaluators get the first two picks spot on. Seems to me in either case with Membou and Warren you can’t go wrong, but the second pick will be most interesting.
     

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