Lets not overlook the 800lb gorilla in the room. How Glenn handles The Legend will define his stay with us.
Yes, it is hard to get excited about it. I also think it is hard to be as relentlessly negative as some of our dear posters. The Jets/Titans have had about 16 decent years out of the last 65. What do you think is going to get worse?
The Aaron Rodgers show needs to be over. Glenn has to establish who's in charge. Who's the Alpha Dog. I don't think Rodgers can handle being a subordinate.
Yes exactly, I don't care what anyone says but last years debacle and clown show started when Aaron Rogers decided to report to Egypt instead of training camp, for that and the crazy Cap hit we will take in 2026 we need to cut ties with him now. Also cut ties with the other people and bad actors who ruined our season(Hackett, Zurelin, Kinlaw, and Clemons), if anyone of those people are on the team next year Jets are not serious about winning.
I agree. But I think he will be here another year. Hopefully if he stays he can back off and let the coaches run the show.
Q: What can Rodgers do in another year that he was unable to do since he got here? Followup: How long could that be sustained?
I guess the idea would be that he could be a bridge/ could help groom a future qb. But the amount of baggage that comes with his personality, and he doesn’t strike as the type that can put himself aside enough to make that successful. I guess it could be said that if he had numbers like he did this season, if the defense is no longer a sieve , If the team is much better coached , we could be much better off.
I’m in alignment with this mindset — you are referring to hoping it gets better here, though. I separate hope and excitement. If the Jets put forward a Commanders type season, I’d be excited about the 2025 campaign. Obviously that didn’t happen so my excitement is curtailed. That being said, my hope remains unwavering in that I look forward to a season where the Jets find success.
I get pissing on Rodgers for various reasons... but negating his performance on the field should not be one of them.
I keep going back to the fact that the Commanders changed ownership, and one of the Jets' biggest weaknesses is the owner. I don't expect anything of the sort. I think Aaron Glenn has potential to be a really good HC but his first hire will be a predictable disaster because the real problems are at the top and the rot filters down through the whole place.
I get that. I haven't been excited for a Jets' season since 1999, so that's not really part of my mindset anymore. Hopeful is the best this franchise will ever get out of me, I'm afraid.
I'm not afraid of anything anymore. I hope for the best, but I am always prepared for the worse. I'm hoping Woody will allow AG to be the HC and stay the fuck out of the personnel loop.
We have no idea what happens behind the scenes, but I thought this year was the biggest in terms of Woody getting involved. He seemed to have just lost it and being reactionary made it worse. Owners on every team has input and use it, they own the team. But I don't think he will get in their way. His kids need to stay out of the locker room though in my opinion, or not be near whatever the team is doing. The whole gameball thing is fucked.
im amazed at how easy it is to get the simpletons to fall in line. “he said some rah rah stuff I will now ignore his abysmal defense and total lack of experience!”
Interesting insight here: https://www.nfl.com/news/inside-the...-to-hire-aaron-glenn-as-their-next-head-coach "...when the New York Jets were first starting their search for their next head coach, Mike Tannenbaum ... visited Bill Parcells at his winter home in Jupiter, Florida... Tannenbaum asked Parcells whom he would be thinking about if he had to hire a head coach. "I'd start with Aaron Glenn," Parcells told him." Put that (he actually traveled to Florida to talk to Parcells in person as soon as the search started) together with the fact we haven't interviewed a single realistic offensive candidate, Tanny saying during ESPN interview he was not looking for "QB whisperer" but a leader, and specifically citing Parcells and Belichick, noting that Andy Reid is anomaly to the trend they see. The result is basically they were searching for next Bill Parcells, and AG is the one they identified. That fits nicely with Woody's line of thinking as well: he always hired defensive guys. I will be honest, this approach to me seems antiquated today, when the League shifted towards the offense rather significantly since Parcells days. Unless you have elite QB, I see success mostly achieved by the teams that have a great offensive schemer (ie QB whisperer) and essentially HC of the defense on the other side. Even Bob, though was a terrible HC, a pussy, etc, his defense was good in spite of that. So, it almost feels like get that creative offensive guy who can make offense work, and then a so called HC of the defense. Kinda what Gase did, except actually be good on offense. These are just two different philosophies and it would be interesting to see how it transpires with us going with the former one. Interestingly that Jax went with the later approach, so may be worth keeping an eye on them as well. I think the key for us though is the OC. If that guy is good, we have a chance for as long as we have him, until he is poached by someone else. So, hoping AG can get a good hire and at least make play-offs this year and go from there. And then somehow stumble onto elite QB...
couple reactions 1. they put a lot of weight into Parcells’ view seems like … he was a great leader but yes I agree it was a very different game 2. Kind of chuckle a bit at the “very wide net” kind of claims…they may have talked to a lot of candidates but you can talk to 100 water boys and say the same thing…but in fact there were PLENTY of candidates that they SHOULD have talked to that they didn’t…and interesting that most of those were offensive guys…why the fuck we didn’t talk seriously (like in person, second interviews, etc) to guys like Brady, Coen, Monken, Johnson, McCarthy, Kingsbury, etc is a great question that I haven’t heard any great answers to…so it may have been a wide net with a lot of candidates but there were several high profile candidates on the offense side that weren’t a seriously interviewed 3. Hearing that the 33rd team pulled the info so that Woody, Chris and Hymie could make the decision actually makes me feel worse not better… these three dipshits couldn’t pick a football out of group of balls let alone know how to make a key hire 4. In the end I’m bummed that we didn’t seriously consider any offensive side coaches and we are literally at the same place we’ve been many times before with first time DC for HC and first time GM…been there done that as nauseum and it hasn’t worked but here we are…we can only hope that THIS time they got it right we will see…
What’s completely being overlooked in all these defensive hires, besides the fact a defensive HC is useless to a drafted QB, is if we happen to hit on a drafted QB, whoever our OC is automatically becomes the next hot HC candidate and likely takes some of the staff with him. That leaves our young QB to learn a new playbook and pray they don’t regress. You lose a DC, big deal. SF didn’t miss a beat losing Saleh. Look at DET, you think they’re losing sleep over losing A Glenn? I don’t think so. Losing Ben Johnson and his staff is devastating to their offense. You hire an Offensive HC you never have to worry about continuity for your young QB if he actually turns out to be good.
