2025 Coordinators

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  1. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    LOL, you are on a message board, of course we are giving our opinions, it's quite dumb to expect otherwise. You are getting very worked up here for no reason. But I understand, as a self proclaimed mature adult you will wait until tomorrow's press conference to learn hard cold facts. In the mean time hopefully Glenn can identify the best OC, who will agree to sign with us, and Woody will open his fucking wallet to pay him.
     
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    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Yes, we're here to share opinions; we're also here to share news - why make it so difficult to tell the difference?

    Could it be that even you are so sure your opinions are correct you can't tell where your imagination ends and reality begins?

    Have you ever come back on your own to admit you got things (like package deals) all wrong?
     
  4. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    That sucks about Kubiak

    the uncertainty with Rodgers and all that he brings may be hurting with offensive coordinators
     
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  5. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    I have posted my share of news as well as opinion, it's actually not difficult to tell apart, you are just unnecessarily making it so for yourself. And I do admit when I am wrong, like picking Olu over Bowers for instance, but I do not see anything wrong with the tandem opinion, and I already explained why. Not sure why you latched on that so hard like a kid to a mother's tit. Time to let go a little bit. Soon we will see if the structure will change as well, I do think it will change based on what I see. But again, this is an opinion, it shouldn't be that hard to tell. No need to get your blood pressure raised over it.
     
  6. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    If Glenn is smart, and I think he is, he would tell the OC he would have a key say in the process to decide about Rodgers. Then it will not be a negative - just an option they have. The negative is not having anything else at QB though. Seattle has Geno. Houston has Stroud. TB has Baker and the fact two previous OCs are HCs now. Jax has Trevor. That is why we need to offer more money/years to an OC and move quickly to hopefully lock Caley up.
     
  7. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Actually it is quite difficult at times to tell fact from opinion such as when a statement like this is made: "This is very different from the strategy 33d team selected. They focused on getting GM and coach that know each other as basically a tandem."

    That's quite a declarative statement with nothing whatsoever to indicate it is the product of one's imagination. Especially when you declined to clarify when questioned about it.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Well thankfully that's all cleared up.
     
  9. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    I have a feeling that Johnson, Mougey and Glenn have already agreed on the path the Jets will take regarding Rodgers; the only input in that regard from a prospective OC would be to make sure he can work with that decision.
     
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  10. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    I didn't think it was that hard to understand it was my opinion, as I do not have direct connection to the decision makers, but I would be happy to clarify that yes, that is my opinion, if it helps you in any way. Now, you seem to be having difficulty following this, so I will try again to explain why I formed that opinion. They brought people who worked together, and then after hiring the HC added two more people with clear connection to the coach, one of which is his personal friend. So, the tandem is an opinion that is rooted in facts we have at hand. Hopefully that clarifies, but if not, while it would be disappointing you are unable to follow the logic, we may need to agree to disagree on this.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    What role will Hackett play next year?
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Hopefully none. He's proven his incompetence with several different teams and for Glenn to bring him back on his staff will be seen as more placating Rodgers if The Legend is still around.
     
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    Ohhh you just wait hahahaha.
     
  14. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Not a coordinator, but a great experienced assistant GM that was reportedly on our list is going to the Titans: https://x.com/AlbertBreer/status/1883593469102563516
    "The Titans are finalizing a deal to make ex-Raiders GM Dave Ziegler their assistant GM, per sources. Ziegler spent last year with the Saints."

    I thought Ziegler got short end of the stick with the Raiders, only 1 year. He did draft Bowers and several other good players as well. Wish we got him, but the Titans are getting the FO that I wanted. Dominoes are falling with the guys attached to us disappearing.
     
  15. Ralebird

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    Form whatever opinions you want, share them as much as you want; that's not a problem at all. You don't need to explain your opinions to anyone - they're yours and yours alone but it can benefit the conversation how you derived such things. On the other hand if such an idea was presented as fact by a journalist or team spokesman and you were simply repeating their words it would carry much more weight.

    The only "difficulty" involved is when you present opinions as fact without the slightest indication they are simply figments of your imagination and when asked if real or make believe, you had no response.
     
  16. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    You need to do better separating opinion from fact, even if I forgot to respond to your question, but "figments of your imagination" is a pretty goofy way of saying opinion derived from facts at hand, I will give you that. Speaking of which, it must have been quite a shock for you to learn that "imaginary" org structure change is real: "Woody Johnson says the #Jets will return to their old reporting structure."

    You did not see that one coming a mile away even yesterday saying "since no change has been announced in the reporting structure in Florham Park that's exactly what I'm currently believing in". LOL
     
  17. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Actually, this entire conversation is based on the responsibility of the poster to separate facts from fiction. We know now how each of us feels about that.

    FYI - I was not at all "shocked" to see the Jets revert to their past reporting situation, disappointed perhaps, but not even surprised a little bit, particularly in light of the statements that the HC and GM would be making the decision on what to do with Rodgers. Seeing the "X" post from Hughes quoting Johnson made it much easier to rely on as opposed to having an anonymous poster just claim it with no background. You got it right, before it even happened - get yourself a cookie. "LOL"
     
  18. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Elementary Watson. LOL.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    It's Hughes' opinion that they changed that structure with Douglas and Saleh. Today Woody just said both the GM and HC will report to him, not that anything has changed

    maybe it didn't change and Hughes is just wrong. Clearly Woody didn't ask Douglas to fire Saleh, he did it himself


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    side note - twitter has damaged reporting and this is a good example
     
  20. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Hughes actually named Johnson as his source which seldom seems to happen in the "X"-sphere. When Saleh was brought in it was definitely announced that he would report to Douglas who was responsible to Johnson directly. That is not to say the owner cannot swing the axe at any time; he's still at the top of the pyramid, regardless of its construction. I'm actually surprised that Johnson was not asked about the hierarchy at the press conference today - it's a legitimate question particularly because it has been in the past. I looked for him to answer the question in his public comments and also in the later interview in the hour long video of today's festivities.
     

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