Woody Johnson's Jets: Madden Ratings and "Most Dysfunctional Place"

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  1. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    He actually started pretty well. I recall we were in play-offs a lot until 2010, 2 Conf finals. Then it all went to hell. But that does not mean Russini is not full of shit. I already pointed out major contradictions. As @REVISion said more than one thing can be true at once. JD stinks. Woody is a dumbass. And Russini is full of shit.

    Also, the record is the record. You do not need to put "true" in quotes. JD's record is garbage. He is a fine assistant GM though, but not the final decisions maker. I doubt he will get another chance to be a GM, in spite of blaming all his fuck ups on Woody via Russini. But he will be assistant GM somewhere.
     
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  2. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but he is not getting canned, he is the fucking owner. He needs to hit on the GM and coach. It can be done, and he did this before when he just started, but making shit up about him, like all this Madden BS, doesn't help if it turns good GMs away.

    Don't misunderstand this as defending Woody. I have stated multiple times he is absolute dumbass. But making up juicy items about him like benching Rodgers, etc, does not help the search for the new GM.

    Also, maybe I didn't read carefully, but why is everyone up in arms about the bit about game ball even if it is true? I mean Brick got his game ball. And if some kid son of owner gave another ball to GW, who played well, who gives a fuck?
     
  3. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    I simply can't anymore... You seem to have some rational bullshit explanation for everything. Funny thing is the fucking team hasn't WON in forever. So you tell me smart guy. Why don't you enlighten ALL of us WHY you think that all these football men coming from all the different winning directions can't seem to take this team to some kind of positive landing? It's JD's fault. Saleh's fault. Idzik's fault. Bowles fault. Edwards fault. Tannenbaum's fault. ALL this fault going around yet the result is the same with all the changes. YOU tell US what YOU would do to change it. But...you can't change the owner. As we've been told...that's never gonna happen.

    You go do you and we'll come back here in 4 or 5 years and we'll see how many games this crap hole has won. Hell, man, we don't even have to wait 4 or 5 years. Next year will look this bad, if not worse. So will 2026. So will 2027. 2028...2029...2030. Do you know why? Woody Johnson. Hell, the WHOLE Johnson clan. THAT'S why.

    I don't give a fuck if you brought in Jim Harbaugh to coach and had Ozzy Newsome as your GM. You want to know what their combined win record would be after a couple years? Playoff appearances = ZERO. Average 4-6 wins a season. Why? Because Woody Johnson runs a fucking DUMPSTER FIRE!

    Have you ever worked for an organization that is run by fools? Where, every-single-day you wake up and have to physically DRAG yourself to work? I have. Companies like that eventually die. The ONLY reason the NY Jets survive is because we have a moronic fan base (myself included) that are too stupid to leave. That or we go "old school" and call ourselves cowards or ship jumpers..or worse, quitters. Well, what do you do when the organization QUITS on we the fans? THAT's what the NY Jets and Woody Johnson have done.
     
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  4. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Last time I listened to Blatt's podcast, and he did his best to distance himself from it, so I think Russini is a driving force, but doesn't really matter, it's the same company, same source, and I think we all know who it is (ciao JD).
     
  5. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Woody-Johnson will NEVER, what did you say, 'hit' one a GM!!!! You could bring in Ozzy fuckin' Newsome (not that a dude that stellar would EVER be associated with a shithole like the Jets) and it wouldn't change a god damn thing.

    You are missing the entire fucking boat. It does not matter WHO you bring in. Johnson is incapable of keeping his useless ass out of EVERY NY Jets building. INCAPABLE!!! Now, he's got his useless fucking kid in there? Seriously? And what is that kid learning? HOW TO DO IT WRONG!!! The BOTH of them are doing NOTHING but mugging for a photo op. THEY DON'T CARE about records. Not really. If they did they would leave the god damn team ALONE!

    You keep saying "hit" on a GM. Yeah, well, the team ALSO needs to "hit" on a QB. We're sitting on a 50+ year run of NOT doing that so when? Will I be alive? Dead? Dead 50 years? When?
     
  6. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Why is this explanation bullshit though? I mean I have been a fan for a very long time and I have seen solid results until 2010, including first 10+ years of Woody. We need to hit on GM and coach. Woody has been unable to do it lately, and yes JD was here for 6 of the worst years, so I am not absolving him. Woody now hired I think competent people who can do it better than he can. I have hope. If you want to give up hope while he is the owner - it's up to you, but he is not selling, and I am not quitting my fandom of the Jets.

    Look at the Knicks. Their shitty owner finally stumbled into someone good and the organization has been turned around. I think there is some hope for the Jets to get GM and HC hires right, and fabricated article by a poor reporter that makes it more difficult doesn't help.
     
  7. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I think a blend of this is true and false.

    Does anyone really believe Woody’s kids are in the locker room telling these juiced up egomaniacs they suck and it hasn’t come out yet? Mekhi Becton didn’t let it out when he left?

    The Madden rating thing sounds like someone made a comment joking around and then a pissed off source was in the room and reported it.

    Hilarious if it’s all true though.
     
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  8. Borat

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    Look, we are all pissed off about last 14 years, and it is a very long time. But we have another chance. We should have had this chance last year, but Woody fucked up not firing JD and Saleh then. And it absolutely does matter who you bring in. Woody doesn't meddle as much as they make it sound. And even according to the Athletic meddling started after 6 years of failure. It's just that Woody should have fired them and never meddled, but if a new GM comes in and succeeds, there won't be a need to meddle.

    Tanny and Rex were good. It IS possible. Two conf finals. You may not remember, but we made play-offs under Herm and won multiple play-off games too. Mangini made play-offs. Rex obviously. All under Woody. We can get back to that. But we do need to hire right people, it can happen again, but Russini does not help with obvious bullshit she is spewing about the Jets.
     
  9. Borat

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    Like every good lie, you need to mix in some parts of truth. But again, the crux of the story, the juiciest parts are clearly BS, and I already pointed out obvious holes in it. But hey, the Jets are the easy target, I get it.
     
  10. typeOnegative13NY

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    You have to know what to look for
     
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    Were not a professional football team. We're Woody's toy train set.
     
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  12. Borat

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    Btw, Brian Costello just refuted the Madden story. And it's not like he is the fan of the Jets. Said the trade for Jeudy didn't happen because the Jets offered a pick plus Lazard, while Cleveland offered just picks, so Denver liked Cleveland offer better. Jeudy also called Madden thing fake news. Look, I get it, it's LOL Jets, Woody sucks, etc... But this Athletic story is BS, just like others with Rodgers benching, and so on. Russini is not a good reporter. Unless there is someone else outside of Athletic to corroborate, cannot be trusted.
     
  13. REVISion

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    The spokesperson we're referring to was responding to the claims made in this Russini article. This is someone who is trying to cover for Woody, and even they didn't deny that the Mike White thing happened, just that Woody apologized.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I don't have to, I didn't write the story. I just believe it.
     
  15. jets_fan

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    Not believing a word of it unless it's reported by another source.
     
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    Again, whether this article is 100% true or not is irrelevant.

    It's probably not entirely true. But it's filled with so many ridiculous and outlandish claims that even if a small fraction of them are true it's completely damning for us.
     
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  17. NY Jets68

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    True or not, the Jets organization is so messed up and that in itself makes it possible to believe a good chunk of it.
     
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  18. letsgojets2819

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    exactly 24 years in and every gm/ coach has gotten canned in a brief amount of time, many coaches and gms that came from winning organizations, if your boss thinks he is smarter than everyone else and doesn’t let you do your job your helpless. I mean clearly we see ulbrich sucks, but a lot of these coaches show promise when they come here and all of them fail. There has been a million reports about saleh and woody getting into heated arguments, woody wanting Rodgers while saleh and jd wanted Carr, etc. constant reports of him interfering all of them can’t be false
     
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  19. papapump

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    That might indeed work if the NFL gets embarrassed.
     
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  20. NYJetsO12

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    And here I just posted on a different thread my Hope against Hope Tanny lifts this shitshow to some semblance of respectability

    Hope this story is all something out of Enquirer
     
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