Sam Darnold or Geno Smith back to the Jets.

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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I’m not agreeing with it at all as you guys know I wanted nothing to do with Wilson but you take the QB so you don’t end up with a Daniel Jones-Giants situation. Underperforming QB on a bad roster that you stick with for way too long.

    You try to reset the position, let the coaching staff pick their guy and hope you end up with CJ Stroud or Herbert.

    Obviously in retrospect we should’ve kept Darnold but I’m still not entirely convinced we’d have this Sam on our hands by now. I’d also like to see this for longer than a season from him too.
     
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  2. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    We gave up on the overall #3 pick because of the inability of Todd Bowles (a DC) and Adam Gase (out of the league).

    It's unreal. You'd think we had Bill Walsh and Kyle Shanahan fail with Sam.

    Mike MacCagnan got it right. He found our franchise QB. So of course, Woody/Christopher fire him1 year after drafting him.....because Gase wanted it. :eek:
     
  3. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    Sam with Garrett Wilson ?

    Sam with a SLIGHTLY below-average OL and WR's/TE/RB's ?

    I was at the Ghost Game. The kid was improving. We panicked.
     
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  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Nah he wasn’t dude. He regressed pretty badly from his rookie year and 2019 to 2020. Not saying he should be completely held accountable since the coaching staff and supporting cast were both utter trash in 2020, but he was pretty bad.

    Either way, I don’t begrudge the Jets for thinking it was time to move on. Right or wrong in the long run, teams don’t give their highly drafted QB the keys for the duration of their rookie contract to figure it out anymore. We’re not the first time to make that mistake either, but it’s not some sort of Jets-only thing.

    It is pretty Jetsy that both Geno and Darnold are quality QB’s now though lol. Good talent evaluation up front and horrible roster management thereafter.

    The Giants held on to mediocrity forever with Daniel Jones. The Raiders with Carr. The Jaguars might’ve just bought their way into doing it with Trevor Lawrence.
     
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    dmw Well-Known Member

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    Sam would have sucked on the Jets b/c the team hasn't had decent offensive coaching. Same with Geno. Coaching is key.
     
  7. Pepsiguy5

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    It'd be nice if Sam was able to finish strong and put an MVP trophy on his shelf.

    Also for what its worth I've watched a fair amount of Vikings games this year since I'm a Darnold fan and I don't really feel like I've seen him do anything much different than he's ever done since entering the NFL. The clear difference to me is that unlike with the Jets he's got good players helping him on offense and a legitimate head coaching staff running the effort. If the Jets had chosen to ever get him some effective help they would be receiving the exact same results. Instead they chose to throw him in the ditch and we see how that worked out for those that chose that route.

    It wasn't just a bad decision. It was a full scale franchise de-railment. And that isn't even because Sam Darnold is the best QB ever. As an NFL player he's basically just solidly adequate. It was the complete squandering of time and resources that ended up setting off basically a chain reaction of shit that only the Jets could pull off. Been frustrating to sit through to be honest.
     
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    Read in today's NY Times that Minnesota is committed to JJ McCarthy as their future QB. Darnold, with a 1 year contract, could be available. It would be funny if Vikes win SB with Darnold who then gets cut.
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    So many trolls under the bridge I barely remember that name.
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    You don't remember those two? You used to trash them, ha.
     
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    Probs to abyzmul
     
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  13. HomeoftheJets

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    Want to play a guessing game of which team interested in Darnold fed that one to the Times?
     
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    The blue one?
     
  15. Pepsiguy5

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    Sam now up to 32 TDs, 13 wins, 67%+ completion %. 4000 yards probably going to be passed next week.

    I remember that year I ended most of my posts with "get Sam some help" Sure would have been nice to see what would have happened if we had you know.... gotten him some god damn help. Didn't seem like it was that hard to figure out at the time.
     
  16. SOXXX2

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    Darnold is a top 5 QB this season and arguably the best QB in the NFC. (Its either him or Goff. Love and Hurts behind them both).

    If he leads the Vikings to a 1 seed or a Super Bowl Appearance I dont know how Minnesota lets him go.....Interesting situation. I know the money doesnt add up so thats why its likely they cant resign him.
     
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    Don't worry who needs Darnold or Geno, we got 42 year old Rodgers next year, with another brilliant Woody/brick coaching/gm hire we will be superbowl bound next year and forget all about these 2 bums.
     
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    Even without #1 seed or SB, you don't let Sam go at this point. 27 year old QB playing the way he does, he will get a bag this season, and Minny has the first dibs. They drafted JJ, but that doesn't matter. JJ is unproven and already got seriously hurt. Sam has proven himself now, durable and still has 10 years left in him. I suspect JJ will be on the trading block pretty soon.
     
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    Thats what I would think. How do they let him go after this.

    If they get the 1 seed it would make no sense
     
  20. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The Vikings aren’t letting him go. He’ll get a 3-4 year deal worth $40ish million a year with an out after 2 or 3 years depending on how long they extend.

    I also doubt they get the top seed. I imagine they lose to the Packers next week and if they don’t, I doubt they go into Detroit and take the top seed away from that team. The Lions are too determined right now, injuries or not.
     

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