Is it really Voodoo at this point, or is it just the standard Jets way to underachieve and fail? Like i said here coming in to last weeks game I still saw 7 winnable games left on the schedule. Including Houston, but which was probably looking like it would be the hardest fought one. So of course we'll win that immediately after losing what should of been the easiest and select few you would ideally, and as an actual playoff bound team, want to be able to write off as a given W on that schedule. I'm half expecting Rodgers' mythical 30pt standard game out of the offense. Just like we got against them last year with Zach. Gotta do it once this season and why not here after the white flag has been raised.
The real question is, how do they have a team like this, and be so bad, you can't even single out 1 aspect of the franchise, and say this is why, the Jets as a awful organization, will always outweigh their desire to win.
Well it’s not an easy fix, which is why it hasn’t been fixed But we have many issues…some key ones 1. a clueless owner who has failed time and time and time again to identify talented knowledgeable people to lead this organization across multiple positions…bad GMs, bad HCs, bad coordinators, and while we don’t see the day to day so have no way of knowing, I’m assuming the executives he has in charge like President, or other operational team leaders behind the scenes, probably also suck in terms of football, only because none of them have been able to help Woody choose better football people. And it’s not a money thing really, for the most part, Woody pays for players, but it’s his utter lack of football knowledge to know WHO is worth paying for and who isn’t. Finally, despite this complete lack of football acumen, he interferes and overrides the very people he hired to make key football decisions…by all accounts, he fired the HC directly without his GMs knowledge…so while I’m not saying that was a bad decision, the timing and method was absolutely terrible, and the team has clearly NOT responded to the change in the way he expected… 2. A GM who has not done well. Again. After the previous GM’s have also not done well. It’s a recurring theme. I believe JD does have the right strategy honestly…he has prioritized OL and DL, which I think is a good way to start building a solid team…have to be strong in the trenches. But while I agree with his strategy, his execution of that strategy has clearly failed. He has drafted multiple OL and our OL still sucks. He has had to resort to aging past their prime free agents all over the place…2 on the OL, 1 at QB, 1 at WR, etc. It’s the quick fix approach when your drafting has failed you. Understanding that no GM hits on all of his draft picks, but we’ve had too many high round busts, starting with Becton and Zach. Combined with plenty of 2nd round busts like Mims and Moore, and it’s hard to build a team. He has had better success in the later rounds and undrafted guys like Bryce Hall, or Echols, etc., but overall he’s had one great draft out of 5. Not good enough. 3. This fascination with hiring defensive HCs in an offense-focused league time after time. We’ve had exactly one offensive side HC in decades, and that was a complete failure and fraud of a coach in Gase, whom EVERYONE on this board KNEW was a terrible hire. No one championed him. He was a fraud who was propped up by a HOF QB in Peyton Manning. And was exposed in Miami but no, that wasn’t good enough for us…we had to jump on him the day after he was fired, much like we did with Kotite. It was a terrible hire that everyone knew was coming except our owners. And of course, we don’t learn from our mistakes…we did the same exact thing in hiring Hackett, but at least this was at the OC and not the HC spot. But going for a proven failed coach who was propped up by a HOF QB a second time is just disgusting to watch, and again, most of us on this board called it at the time. 4. The overwhelming culture of losing and acceptance of losing is hard to turn around. And it only turns around by actually winning. It may be a young energetic rookie coach (we tried and failed with Saleh) or an experienced HC (we tried and failed with Gase), but we always seem to choose the wrong ones, which goes back to ownership’s inability to understand football. I personally think our collection of players is not the problem. Are there a couple guys overpaid? Sure. But the core problem I don’t think is the on field talent. I bet if you gave this roster to someone like Andy Reid, or Parcells, or Kyle Shanahan, etc., we’d be in playoff contention and likely Super Bowl contention. The problem to me is coaching, and not just in the actual plays or X’s and O’s. It’s in the ability to devise schemes that maximize our player’s skillsets. It’s in the ability to get the individual players to play as a team. It’s in the ability to eliminate the stupidity of play and especially in pre snap penalties that is just such basic shit that high school teams don’t get as many as we do. And it’s in the ability to motivate the players to play hard instead of going through the motions. So to me, I would not firesale players right now. Especially not our young studs like GW, or Breece, or Sauce, or Q. That doesn’t move anything forward…you’re just trading a known good player for the draft pick that you hope becomes as good or better. To me, the problem is way deeper than that, and it starts with the GM and the HC and the rest of the coaching staff. Until that gets fixed, we can have pro bowlers everywhere and the record won’t improve.
Of course we win the Texans game and not the Pat one. Again...just because. This freaking team and franchise.
I voted NO … but if you want to dream … Win both games in November, and we’d actually be in decent shape at 5-6 with a 4-4 conference record. IF we do that, I think there’s a good chance after 11 games, the standings could be Jets, Bengals, Colts at 5-6 / Broncos and Chargers 6-5. Assuming that the Steelers or Ravens cruise to the first WC, that’s five teams fighting for the last two spots with 6 games to go. If you look at the November schedule this scenario is very realistic. EXCEPT for the part where we win the next two games. But you never know.
IMO the Jets wont make it as much as I want to see them make it. We really would have to get 10-7 to get in. I think if we got to 9-8 we would lose it on a tiebreaker to Denver. Denver has 5 wins already. The other issue to is I think the Chargers are on there way to making the playoffs. Harbaugh has his team at 5-3 and they likely will get better heading later into the season. So if the Chargers are going to make it and either Steelers/Ravens take another wild card spot that leaves one spot which Denver or Cincy will likely get. With that said though a lot of these teams are playing each other and have harder schedules than the Jets do. Perhaps we see Denver collapse down the stretch. They are really the team that we have to bank on because I just dont see Chargers or Ravens/Steelers collapsing.
Anyone see the Cardinals running wild yesterday against the Bears on both sides of the ball? They are fast, and they are really good. We are going to be 3-7 after Sunday and put completely out of our misery once and for all.
I watched the game on the main screen. My money league fantasy team who got a miserable 4.76 points out of Kyler and a 3.4pts game out of Harrison yesterday would strongly disagree on just how "running wild" that offensive side of the ball really looked yesterday Couple big play runs, but overall it was arguably more a story of that Chicago team being bad imo then Arizona looking like any special. That said I'm not expecting us to win that one either. Wouldn't be surprised if Kyler ends up with his biggest and most impactful rushing day of the year against our defense too.
All of this renewed playoff talk surrounding this team in the media is just a symptom of why this team continues to suck. They go five weeks without winning a game, almost the ENTIRE MONTH OF OCTOBER, and then finally win a game against a seriously depleted and overrated Houston team, and all of a sudden "The Jets are Back Baby!". They're not Back, they never arrived in the first place. This team is terrible. They are one of the 3-5 worst teams in the league this year. There shouldn't be any talk of playoffs, especially not by these players. And the leadership of this franchise is doing their fans and the organization itself a disservice by continuing to hold out delusional hope for the rest of this season. They're already punting on the next regime by not conducting a massive fire sale here at the deadline to load up for the next GM to have a war chest of draft picks at his disposal come next spring in order to get the rebuild off to the best possible start. This team is and continues to be a joke.
Jets only hope is putting together a mega winning streak. It's not impossible, but they have yet to string 2 good games together, so I'm not counting on it. I voted Just End the Season. Put us out of our misery instead of more false hope.
Unless we turn into the greatest show on turf...Just fucking end the season. WE ALL KNOW. If they win streak into week 17. That Dolphin game ...we forget how to play football and lose to what's likely middling or worse Dolphin team in classic SOJ fashion. I love and hate this team so much lol
I am done rooting for Jets success. I am now rooting for events that will eventually lead for Woody's demise that will force his hands to sell to an owner who cares about winning. Just End The Season for me
This is never happening. He already said hes giving the team to his son. The Jets need to hire a VP of Football ops and woody needs to fuck off to the UK.
