Max’s Mock Off-season 1.0

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  1. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    It’s so far out I’ll keep this one simpler.

    Players I’d keep as starters:
    QB: Zach Wilson
    RB: Michael Carter
    WRX: Corey Davis
    WRZ: Elijah Moore
    LT: Mekhi Becton
    LG: Alijah Vera-Tucker
    C: Connor McGovern
    RDE: Carl Lawson
    LDE: John Franklin-Myers
    3T: Quinnen Williams
    DT2: Sheldon Rankins
    WLB: Jamien Sherwood
    SLB: Quincy Williams
    CB1: Bryce Hall
    CB2: Brandin Echols
    NKL: Michael Carter II
    DIME: Javelin Guidry
    S: Ashtyn Davis

    Needs:
    TE(Y) (2nd Round Pick)
    TE(Blk) (4th Round Pick)
    FB (FA Vet + UDFA to compete)
    WR(SLT) (Re-Sign Jamison Crowder)
    RG (Sign Brandon Scherff or Wyatt Teller)
    RT (1st Round Pick)
    NT (Extend Folorunso Fatukasi)
    MLB (2nd Round Pick)
    S (3rd Round Pick)

    OL
    So I’d be heavily in on a RG in Free Agency, either Wyatt Teller of Brandon Scherff. Teller has operated in a similar scheme so he is my preference if available. I’d look at a RT with one of the first round picks, the Alabama kid Evan Neal would be interesting. Then I’d look at a future Center in the 4th round to sit for a year behind McGovern. Keep Fant as the Swing Tackle. I don’t care if he’s a little expensive.

    TE/FB
    The Jets should be looking for a legitimate playmaking TE in the 2nd round, and then a blocking TE in round 4. 12 Personnel is frequently used in this scheme so I want 2 out of this draft. I think you can find a FB in free agency and one as a UDFA and they can compete for the role.

    WR
    I would re-sign Jamison Crowder to a modest deal for a year or two to continue to play the Slot role. Add another inexpensive Vet as the 4th/5th guy,

    DE
    I would release Shaq Lawson, and spend a 1st Round pick at Edge. If anything is clear, depth at DL is key when your scheme is built around front 4 pass rush. You gotta have more, plus ideally this guy takes over as starter after a year or two.

    DT
    Extend Fatukasi now to play NT for the next few years. Rankins can be the rotational DT for 2022.

    LB
    Trade Mosley before trade deadline if anyone will take his contract. He is a difference maker, but I promise you, fans will be eternally grateful if he tears an ACL for some other team than the Jets in week 16, and it’s them that has to pay him $16 million. Then draft a Mike LB who is young and can run for the next 8-10 years in the 2nd round. Quincy Williams can be the SLB who only plays on run downs and subs out in Nickel. Sherwood can compete with Nasirildeen for the WLB spot. Add another LB in the 5th just because.

    S
    Draft Safety in the 3rd Round, and you can bring back Joyner on a 1 year deal. Let Maye walk in FA.

    CB
    I find it unlikely the Jets will spend a high pick on a CB. The 49ers never spent more than a 3rd on a CB while Saleh was DC (2017-2020). The Jaguars never spent more than a 4th except for a 1st on Jalen Ramsey while he was there under Gus Bradley (2014-2016) and the Seahawks never spent higher than a 5th while Saleh was there under Carroll (2011-2013). I’d take another CB in the 5th to add to the corps.

    In other words:
    1st: OT, DE
    2nd: LB, TE
    3rd: S
    4th: C, TE
    5th: CB, LB

    FA: RG, Slot WR, S, FB, WR5, Backup QB. Only big money FA is the RG.

    Extend: Fatukasi and Quinnen

    Trade Away: Mosley
     
  2. Cman69

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    Didn't even make to Veteran's Day this year before we're talking mock drafts... :(:(
     
  3. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been looking to the 2022 season since the Jets traded Darnold to be honest
     
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  4. mrjet80

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    Nice job - I agree the Jets should be focusing on 3 major areas - OL (more than one), LB (starters and depth), and TE. A mock draft on utube by Matt O’Leary also has the Jets drafting 2 TEs, the one from Texas AM and also Colorado State McBride?…..boy that would change the TE room in a hurry. EDGE also needed - I would say DE.

    I also agree CB should not be a high pick. The Jets CBs for the most part have played well and it’s the youngest position group on the team. If they feel they want to add another CB I would go the FA route and add a veteran presence.
     
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    Thanks, I like the combo of Ruckert from Ohio State and McBride
     
  6. Pepsiguy5

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    In most years the idea of drafting 2 TE's for most any team would seem pretty silly. But this year, especially after watching New England pay up for Smith and Henry in FAgency and having those two guys doing really heavy lifting in helping to keep the Pat offense's head above water I'm not so sure how bad of an idea this would be for the Jets.

    The Jets have pretty much made their bed for QB for 2022 and despite rather poor results I feel like their WR group is as skilled as they have been in years. So on offense TE, RG and RB seem to be the areas where the most improvement is possible by personnel change.
     
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  7. GasedAndConfused

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    Nice post. lots of good ideas for sure.

    For me I was thinking similar but a little different. I'd take a run at juju in a corey davis like deal to start opposite davis and use moore in the slot.
    for the draft evan neal is a good possibility with our 1st 1st rounder and we can get wydermyer with our 2nd 1st rounder at TE. after that the rest of the draft should mostly be defense but a RB mixed in. I like verdall in the 4th to pair with carter and ty. He reminds me of MJD.

    I don't think we need a C. mcgovern is fine if we get a RG. PFF has him in the top 10. he's played well. mcgovern is killing this unit. if we got say teller and drafted neal out o-line would be becton, AVT, mcgovern, teller, neal. That's pretty strong. fant can stay as the swing backup for both neal and becton.

    with our 2 2nds brandon joseph is a S we should look at. perfect replacement for maye. rangy centerfielder with good ball skills and LBer devin lloyd who is a sideline to sideline athlete. I wanted JOK badly during the draft this year and he's blowing it up in cleveland well was before the injury. lloyd isn't a JOK level athlete but he's more then good enough and can be the Will for us. that would give us sherwood, quincy, and lloyd as a starting 3

    in the 3rd i'm thinking tykee smith. he's a physical, smart, and versatile safety. we can start 2 rookie safties and davis would be the primary backup so we'll have more depth. maybe we can resign joyner just in case as well.

    with the 4ths i like cj verdall at RB we need a strong guy up the middle. he may even be available later due to his leg injury that ended his season earlier this month. i'd take another TE here too. laporta, stonger, and ruckert are all projected as 4th rounder right now

    with our 5th (assuming we only have 1) maybe take a developmental d -lineman like myron. he'll probably be a DT in the NFL with hsi short heavy frame but has played both DT and DE. could replace shepard who is likely gone

    with our 6thy either a LBer or edge rusher to develo;. amari gainer or nolan smith might be good here

    of course as you said it's early and rankings will change. I'm not sold on trading mosley though TBH. I think having a smart veteran to QB the defense will help our rookies and young players a lot. sherwood could use it. I mean look at TB. they signed sherman. he got hurt, their DB coach was out with covid and sherman took over as the DB coach last game. You need a couple of vets to help all the young players
     
  8. NCJetsfan

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    Excellent job, Max. I mostly agree, but have a few areas of disagreement or potential disagreement.

    I'd be fine with signing Teller in FA to play RG, but want no part of Scherff with his age and injury history. Another option would be to move McGovern to RG and draft Tyler Linderbaum in the 1st round to play C.

    I love Crowder, but the only way I'd re-sign him is if Moore shows nothing the rest of the season. IMO Moore needs to be used exclusively in the slot and we also have Berrios to play in the slot. Mims needs to be starting on the outside.

    TE is supposedly a key position in this offense, so I totally agree with drafting two, unless the Jets sign a TE and there could be several good ones available in FA. Alternatively, I could see using one of our 1st round picks on a TE like Wydermyer. The position is that important. We need a TE who is a dynamic receiver and blocker. While it's possible to find one like that in the 2nd round in some drafts, it may not be in 2022.

    If we don't use one of our 1sts on a TE, then I definitely think they should be used for two of these three positions: DE, RT and C. I don't think it's absolutely necessary that we use a 1st round pick on a RT as they can be found in the 2nd round sometimes, but if the plan is to keep McGovern at C, then I would definitely want the two 1st round picks used on DE and RT.

    Our two 2nd round picks should either be used for RG (if we don't sign one in FA), TE or LB. I think we won't be able to trade Mosely, so he will be back, but we could draft his replacement and groom him for 2023. We might be able to draft his eventual replacement in the 3rd round however. In the meanwhile, he could start at one of the other LB positions. The only other positions I'd use a 2nd round pick on would be S or RB.

    3rd round pick would be one of S, TE, LB, RB or maybe OG.

    Our two 4th round picks could be used on TE and OL or maybe LB or RB depending upon which position we addressed earlier.

    Our two 5th round picks should be used for LB and OL depth

    I would retain Shaq Lawson if he plays decently this season. The starters would hopefully be Carl Lawson and one of Kayvon Thibodeaux/Aidan Hutchinson/Kingsley Enagbare/Drake Jackson and the backups Bryce Huff, JFM, and Shaq Lawson

    I'd keep Cole for depth at WR.
     
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    It's depressing when threads like these pop up before Halloween.

    I'm all for fortifying the RG spot with a FA. And yes, sign a backup QB, so we don't have to trade a pick for one midseason again.

    I'd go for an Edge with our first pick and OL/TE with our second depending on who's available. There's no Pitts in this draft, but Wydermyer has a lot of upside. In the 2nd round, I'd use a pick on a LB who can take over once Mosley leaves and a TE if one wasn't taken in round 1. I'd be open to going RB as Perine and Coleman aren't long for this team.

    As for the 3rd round and beyond, I need to put some thought into what to do then. Maybe another OL to add depth.
     
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  10. GasedAndConfused

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    a OG to look at in the 2nd for us is lecitus smith. he'd be perfect here. he came into college as a 6-4 255lb TE and is now a 320LB OG. very athlete and added a lot of strength. would fit our system nicely and could be the lead puller on runs to the right
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    You should take comfort in his last performance, he was done at the Jets and let's just be honest he is never going to be better than average with a flash in the pan two or three times a season.
     
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    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Oh I agree, I’m just saying I knew it was going to be a 2 off-season re-work using the #2 pick on a QB
     
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    I don’t particularly want JuJu, and even if they brought him in he’s a slot guy. I don’t agree that Moore should be in the slot, I think he’s got all of the traits and ability to play outside. Route running, burst, deep speed, hands. I get what you’re saying about the veteran presence, but I don’t think you have to pay a guy $16 Million to get that. There are good players past their prime that can be a vet leader that can cost you like $3-5 million.

    I like Tykee too but I’d pair him with Davis instead of another rookie. I’m not in on the 1st Round TE though, you can get an OT and Edge in the 1st and usually get a good TE in the 2nd. No 1st Round TE unless they are Darren Waller/Pitts.
     
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    While we’re at it, we should probably give some props to Geno Smith. His 0/4 in game-winning drive situations (with the league’s best WR tandem) has really helped the Jets’ draft position. :D
     
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    Realistically this offense was neglected for so long …. so long that the Jets need another offseason such as last season to catch up on the talent disparity. What we are watching now if an offense that still needs direction and quite frankly more juice. The right side of the OL, TEs to make Wilson’s job easier twofold - blocking and the short routes. Another RB to bring into the fold with Carter and Johnson. Coleman will be a FA and a year older. Maybe another big WR if they really don’t like Mims for whatever reason.

    All of this is at least another full offseason to go along with last offseason - Davis, Cole, the first four draft picks etc……the Jets are still catching up.
     
  16. GasedAndConfused

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    I think juju can be had in a simlar price to davis. 12 mil a year. He can play outside or if you like moore outside juju can be the slot guy. if we were gonna shell out 16-17 mil we could get godwin at that price.

    I think 1st round TE is important. wyderemyer is a difference maker. he can be a waller type. should be late 1st as of now. we could trade back the seattle pick for extra picks and still get him. all depends on the final rankings though. maybe w'll get lucky and he slips down to the 2nd round
     
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    He is our main man :D we could end up with 2 picks in the top 5 lol
     
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    I'm not sure how a perennial playoff team like the Seahawks can roll with Geno Smith as their backup. You have to be able to do better than Smith.
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    You use the word USUALLY, I will just say JETS JETS JETS :(
     
  20. wewantsapp

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    You got me w/the early mock offseason. I agree with almost everything you said;
    - Wyatt Teller as our offseason RG acquisition all the way.
    - Resign/extending Folorunso Fatukasi (we actually might get outbid on this by someone else)
    - Drafting Evan Neal OT from Alabama
    - Let Maye walk
    - LBs early in the draft & if it presents itself ==== certainly trade CJ Mosley

    Where we differ;
    - I want our 2nd pick in the 1st round to go to Tyler Linderbaum C from Iowa. I want us to cut McGovern & use his $9 million elsewhere. Perhaps we trade down w/the Seattle pick just enough to grab Linderbaum as late as possible.
    - Sign Marcus Williams FS from New Orleans to take over Mayes absence.

    More forthcoming.
     
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