The problem with draft pick compensation is that you have to select a competent replacement, which is usually our downfall. We haven’t selected anyone as consistent as Maye since, well, we picked Maye. No doubt we’ll select a speedy, versatile, hybrid LB/S who is dog shit at both positions.
The Jets are in an awkward position when it comes to Maye. He isn't young enough to build around and he isn't a JD player. Now he's hurt, which depresses his trade value. We're in an awkward position with JD also, like being in a rapids aboard a struggling horse with the far shoreline getting no closer as he flails about.
There is also the agent to factor in. He is looking at potential endorsement deals of a client that is in his prime on a team that has been getting booed off the field for going on 3 years. It makes financial sense for the player and agent if he gets traded to a contender.
If he was 25 it would make sense to resign him, at 28 it does not. Might as well get what you can now before he walks and get nothing. Jets fans will complain either way, resign an average safety to a top of position contract and they overpaid, trade him because he is not a core guy part of the rebuild and JD is too cheap to sign guys.
Douglas is the dickhead here, although the agent is surely a dickhead as well. I'm starting to think all those injury grievances with the NFLPA had nothing to do with Gase...
I don't see how he's suddenly going to decline rapidly? If you sign him to a four year deal, you have an out after three generally. Safety is as much about angles as it is speed. He plays very similar to McCourty and was a top five safety last year. This whole thing was botched because he should've been extended as soon as they traded Adams. But I don't really get why a 4 year/$50 million deal (this off-season) is unreasonable for one of your three good players. Instead we paid a bunch of mercenaries that suck.
One of the problems Jets fans have is a lack of perspective. We see so much bad management on this team that it becomes hard to figure out what good management would look like.
Maybe they trade Maye, maybe they don’t. Either way, JD has drafted or signed no players worth keeping long term as a solution. Maye is replaceable but it’s tough if we get says a 4th for him. We need starting talent and he is one.
I don't think Joe is too cheap to sign guys. I do think that he is capable of misjudging the market for certain players. He admitted as much after letting Robbie walk. He could do the same with Maye. I know some Jets fans will misguidedly assume that he fixed that problem as soon as he realized he made the Robbie mistake, but I don't think that kind of problem is fixed overnight.
This is my point too…personally I think Maye is above average, and in any case for us, one of our best defensive players. He may not be a top three safety league wide, but he is above average. last I looked, we suck balls. We have too many below average players that we need to replace on both sides of the ball. If we don’t sign Maye, then we just created another hole to fill in addition to the existing ones. Who’s going to fill it? Davis? Give me a break. We have NO ONE on this roster. So we’d need to draft one next year. In addition to all the OL and TE and DE and LB and CB we still need to draft. We’ll never get there. We will ALWAYS be rebuilding because we never keep anyone we draft. this is why we are where we are. We have been historically terrible at drafting, and the few good players we’ve hit on, we don’t keep and we make up tons of excuses as to why we shouldn’t keep them. He’s too old. He doesn’t fit the system. He’s a bad attitude. List goes on and on. So this is what we get. jeez…our actions make it seem like the only players worthy of a second contract are fucking hall of farmers. If we were halfway decent at drafting then that strategy may work but we’ve clearly shown that we are clueless when drafting, and honestly JDs first draft class is falling right in line with our history in that respect. Looking worse by the week. Zuniga Mims Morgan and Perine not good enough to play, and two are already off the team. Becton and Davis hurt half the time…Clark hurt 100% of the time….it’s getting brutal. so I don’t fall into the he’s too old camp, not when we have no clear replacement, but hey, let’s create yet ANOTHER hole on our team because you know, WE are way too smart to overpay an average safety. fucking clueless
I torn regarding Maye. I can see both sides of the issue. He has been a good player for us and a solid citizen. On the downside is his age, too many missed tackles, and he isn't that fast. On the positive side, he is good in coverage, has the right character, and we don't have anyone to replace him on the roster. Jets79 has a good point...we have a history of not re-signing the few good players we've drafted, and if we don't re-sign him, it just creates yet another hole. I don't think JD would use a top 10 draft pick on the ND safety (Harrison?) when we still need help at Edge, OL, and at LB. Along with Mims, he is probably our only tradeable asset at this point, but why do that and create more holes? Why trade a good player simply because he is a little older than you'd like? Why trade a young WR with tons of potential because your rookie OC is a dumbass and can't figure out how to use him? The only way it would make sense for me for the Jets to trade Maye now and not to re-sign him, is if JD has a clear understanding that Maye is not going to budge off getting paid like he is a top 3 safety in the NFL. Even then for a few years, we could do it, and that might be the wiser course. JD could always take a tougher stance with players he drafts in the future to maintain his team salary structure. Our young CBs have been playing very well, but at least part of that may be due to Maye's leadership/stability and solid play behind them.
This fan base makes it seem like the only options are cutting ties with all our good players, because we aren't good enough to 'contend', or massively overpay. How about just signing him to a top 10 Safety contract, which is what he is? He's not going to make Jamal Adams money here or anywhere else, because he's not Jamal Adams. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be signing him to anything. JD has botched almost every single re-sign opportunity we've had, and I think it's because he doesn't want players he didn't personally onboard for some reason. It's terrible logic.
It could be possible that the Jets just don't value his skillset so much and don't think he's worth what he's asking for.
