Darnold - Slow processor. Low football IQ. What the loss to Miami shows

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by JetsAreBadForYourHealth, Nov 29, 2020.

  1. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2004
    Messages:
    11,666
    Likes Received:
    5,886
    The likelihood of Lawrence not wanting to play for the Jets is so minimal that it’s silly to be concerned about. Every QB that expects to go #1 knows he’s going to the worst team in the league, so the Jets being bad this year is what Lawrence would expect from any team drafting him at 1. The only reason he would not want to go to the Jets would be personal, and there is no indication he has a personal reason not to want to play for the Jets.
     
    REVISion likes this.
  2. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    26,523
    Likes Received:
    20,978
    You had me up until the last sentence.
     
    HomeoftheJets likes this.
  3. FrontOfficeFanatic

    FrontOfficeFanatic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2017
    Messages:
    1,172
    Likes Received:
    1,955
    Here are some facts:

    1) Sam is a good dude with a good head on his shoulders
    2) He's athletic and has enough arm talent
    3) He's often reckless
    4) He isn't consistently accurate
    5) He struggles under pressure, especially defense that emphasize cover 0 and hasn't improved
    6) He isn't durable
    7) He isn't good manipulating defenses with his eyes

    Sam has traits to be a solid starter in the right system with the right supporting cast. But he will never be elite--he is not capable of it. I would say the same about every QB int hat draft and a good majority of NFL QB's.

    Bottom line: It is easier to win with an elite QB than without one. When you don't have have an elite QB, you take/sign one when they are available.

    At the end of the day, this is a game and I don't support attacking players personally. I support Sam as a person and he seems like a fine person. I am happy he has made it this far in the sports industry....I would hope the same if my child was an athlete.

    As a fan, I am rooting for a SB at some point and the shortest path to get one is an elite QB. So yes, I'm going to root for one 0-16 season to potentially grab a future HOF level QB. None of the 2018 QB's were as highly regarded as TL. That's why they were jockeying for position for #1 until draft day.
     
  4. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    5,313
    Likes Received:
    9,212
    It says a lot that our resident Darnold apologists are trying to spin this as "Sam had a good game!".

    When your QB having a "good game" means 3 turnovers and under 200 yards throwing, you have a bad QB.
     
    matt robinson 17 likes this.
  5. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    21,158
    Likes Received:
    8,027
    Same game he has every Sunday, under 200 yds and 3 turnovers
     
    Jets81, zace and REVISion like this.
  6. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Messages:
    14,027
    Likes Received:
    4,546
    14 of 26 for 132 yds 0TD's 0 INT's (should have been 3) against a putrid Seahawks defense.
     
  7. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2010
    Messages:
    3,663
    Likes Received:
    4,094
    it’s what happens when you don’t establish the run aka you run Gore for 3 yards a pop. Then you put your QB in 3rd and longs.
     
    papapump and K'OB like this.
  8. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    21,158
    Likes Received:
    8,027
    My grandson could have caught those 3 picks, 20 yds passing in 2nd half
     
    Savatage, K'OB and ColoradoContrails like this.
  9. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    14,518
    Likes Received:
    21,736
    Not to make any excuses for Darnold, but the pass pro was the worst it's been in weeks.
     
    Savatage likes this.
  10. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    21,158
    Likes Received:
    8,027
    The sun was in his eyes but it was raining
     
  11. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    14,518
    Likes Received:
    21,736
    He got distracted by the rainbow.
     
    twown, Savatage and matt robinson 17 like this.
  12. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,631
    Likes Received:
    10,895
    Lol the excuses keep coming for a guy who just sucks.

    Time to accept he is garbage. Lawrence here we come!
     
  13. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2008
    Messages:
    7,367
    Likes Received:
    6,363
    Today was a combination of a guy whos not a starting NFL QB and also totally defeated.

    Jets ruined him, but it's hard to say he would have had success elsewhere... he's just not very aware.
     
  14. Savatage

    Savatage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2013
    Messages:
    2,662
    Likes Received:
    3,402
    There's no sugar coating it any longer, he sucks. He'll be a journeyman backup and nothing more.
     
  15. Bellys Lies

    Bellys Lies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2016
    Messages:
    487
    Likes Received:
    322
    Geno Smith outplayed Sam. With Sam playing against back ups in the 4th quarter. Geno Smith who I did not think was even playing anymore, outplayed Sam. Sam is the worst starting qb in football and people still think he has trade value
     
    zace and matt robinson 17 like this.
  16. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Messages:
    14,027
    Likes Received:
    4,546
    Shouldn't need much at all against the worst pass D in the NFL.
     
  17. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    26,523
    Likes Received:
    20,978
    Remember when everybody thought Sam was so much better than Josh Allen & Baker Mayfield?

    Good times... :confused:
     
  18. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Messages:
    14,027
    Likes Received:
    4,546
    I'm thinking lots of people here still do.
     
  19. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,430
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    The jets didnt ruin him, he was never that good. I always say thisnis why you need to take college record with a grain of salt.

    I dont care how many records you have, how do you play the game?

    Sam.....is exactly what he was in college. A turnover machine. Difference is the worst NFL would blow out the best college team. That's just a reality.

    Everyone is fast and strong in the NFL. Thats when mechanics become so important.

    Sam has not adapted, you can blame gase, you can blame the talent around him, you can make up whatever excuse you want, but the fact is Sam ruined Sam. He was not prepared to play in the NFL. He was a friggin redshirt freshman whos never shown any improvement or development at all. He just played in a soft ass west coast division and padded his stats against bad teams. Hes just been exposed in the NFL



    Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
     
  20. MDJets

    MDJets Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2012
    Messages:
    2,632
    Likes Received:
    1,586
    Allen is just getting better every game and progressing well. Not a super star QB but gets the job done.
     
    matt robinson 17 likes this.

Share This Page