We adapted by finishing 7-9 rather than the 4-12 we were destined for when a slew of injuries rattled this team to a 1-7 start.
It definitely is. I don't want that to completely take away from the good (not great) year the defense had, but the defense was essentially settled by mid season. There wasn't a ton of shuffling in and out and Hewitt, Burgess and Maulet all played their spots as if they are dying for a second for contract. You can't really play bend don't break offense like we did on defense.
..this is a fair argument. However, I would argue that the adaptation mostly was on one side of the ball. If It wasn't for our DC, I don't think we adapt, win, or even come close to it. You don't here Williams complaining about injuries.. He doesn't have a loser mentality, he takes what he has, makes that shit work. Can you say the same about the HC? I can't. All I hear is injury this, injury that, blah, blah.. He's a loser.
its not unusual for a rebuilding team that drafts a new QB to start out year 2 like shit and then have some success in the back half of the year to finish with a respectable W-L record. Then, in year 3, the team has enough pieces in place to fight for a legitimate playoff spot..... BUT these are the jets and they rarely do anything that falls into place. I have serious doubts these jets follow a similar pattern unfortunately. Why???? i am not completely sold on the QB, the roster hangover from the past 2 GM's is a doozy, and the head coach. We'll see. Next years schedule is brutal so any improvement on 7-9 will be a major accomplishment.
Where do you see Adam Gase complaining about injuries? Is it fair to say that the defense faced some shittier offenses than the Jets offense faced defensively? The Jets offense played 8 games against top 10 yardage defenses. On the contrary, the Jets defense faced 2 top ten yardage offenses.
Let me break it down for you Good players = diabetic who does the shit they're supposed to do Bad players=diabetic who doesn't Its all fine and dandy to think you can will everyone to be a good diabetic but that's not the case. We had both, but the good ones went down. So all youre left with is people who eat birthday cake. I know that went over your head, and if it did, you have no business lecturing anyone on what a loser mentality is. Life is not black and white, context is EVERYTHING. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
The Jets had 3rd stringers and guys off the street. Give them at least a morsel of credit. Pitt was playing for its lives. Miami just beat NE...we beat them. I've seen the Jets quit many times. They didn't quit this year
Several times. Google it. There are articles I've read of him quoting injuries. Mostly I hear him talking about Injuries in press conferences and interviews. He does it A LOT. Hell, he did the same thing when he was the HC of the Phins. This isn't anything new for him. Defense - Offense 2nd - Buffalo - 23rd 20th - Browns - 22nd 1st - Patriots - 7th 15th - Eagles - 12th 11th - Dallas - 6th 1st - Patriots - 7th 21st - Jags - 26th 32nd - Dolphins - 25th 30th - Giants - 18th 27th - Redskins - 32nd 24th - Raiders - 24th 25th - Bengals - 30th 32nd - Dolphins - 25th 3rd - Ravens - 1st 5th - Steelers - 27th 2nd - Buffalo - 23rd I mean. Yes, we played a few more better Defenses but It's not like it is crazy one sided either. It's fairly even from a rankings standpoint. It's not enough to justify being the 31st ranked offense in the league.
I got it. It was just stupid and wasn't close to being a good comparison. The only way this works is if we had literally last our entire roster to injuries. We didn't... I'm sorry you're offended, I suppose? What I am saying, I stand by, It absolutely is a loser's way of thinking. You can try to justify it but I still maintain, I'm not wrong. I'm an open minded person, and I'm still very secure on my line of thinking on this topic.
Where are you getting these rankings? That's not the listings that ESPN has for YPG. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team Also. I mean. Did you watch the offensive line play? We started some dude named McDermott and the immortal Brent Qvale this week.
I think our players deserve a lot of credit. They played well. But there isn't a game this year I can say we beat a playoff team. We didn't become true contenders and I don't think we will next year. I'm not going to congratulate us for beating crap teams because we are a crap team and have a way to go to be good. We also lost to bad teams. Miami, Cinci, Clevand to name a few. And yes we were playing different o line but letsface it none of our o line good. Not the ones thag got hurt or the ones we played. In fact I would say we got better when we lost khalil... and from what I saw of the little osmele played I think we got better there too. Fact is we have a long way to go. But the injuries weren't that significant on offense except maybe Herndon and Griffin. Enunwa was a waste and DT was better. We need a true big bodied WR who can grab a 50/50ball and a lot of o line. On defense we need an edge rusher and cb1. But that said the injuries is just an excuse. Gase's play calling outside of what he has a week to plan for is horrendous. The front office management of this team for over a decadr has been garbage... those 2 things habe to be fixed. There are really good players on both side of the ball, but our holes will hold us down.
I’m focusing solely on offensive stats here. Because let’s be fair, Williams is our defensive head coach. Gase was brought here to improve the offense and Sam Darnold. The result has been the worst offense in the league and marginal improvement from Sam that arguably would have been made in year 2 regardless of who coached here. Wins and losses is a dangerous stat to look at here as they as misleading.
This all reminds me of 2013. Jets had a different theoretical franchise QB from USC back then. Jets looked lousy most of the year, but won 3 of their last 4 games, finishing 8-8 and convincing the Johnsons to keep the faltering head coach for one more year. Jets went 4-12 in 2014.
Well the thing is we beat Pitt, Dallas and Oakland...our beating them could've prevented all 3 from being playoff teams. Kind of deceptive the "not beating playoff teams" argument. We could've very easily beaten Buffalo twice. Jets are at a critical juncture right now but I'm optimistic things are finally looking up We have some ways to go. I don't think it's quite a long way though
Right. But you can't look at offensive stats in a vacuum without analyzing what players comprised those stats, and how that will look differently next year. There's only four players on this offense worthy of returning and even having a starting spot on any NFL offense. Herndon is now an unknown and while Griffin played solidly, there's a reason he was available in training camp. You can make it five if you want to debate Beachum or Alex Lewis as OK players. So do you think that another coach would've yielded better offensive results with the talent on hand?
None of those teams were legit playoff teams. They were all possible get in cause everyone else is just as bad or worse than us teams. Tenn is the better team, but they had to make a qb change to get there. I'm in no way saying Tannehill is good, just better than Mariota. That said all pitt had no chance with their 3rd string qb. Oakland has a lot of growing to do but they have a lot of good piece, thats the youngest team in the league i believe, they will get better. And Dallas has probably one of the worst coaching situations in the league. Garret isn't bad but doesn't appear to be the answer. None of them are "contenders"
You're just saying they're not contenders because they didn't make it. If you have a chance in week 17 to make it, you're a contender. Whether it's a weaker team or not doesn't make them not in contentious. The reality is that Pittsburgh and Dallas finished one game short of making the playoffs. Oakland finished two back. They all lost to us, which would've put them in, depending on tie breakers and what not.
They had no chance of making it through the wild card round.. Dallas has no chance of beating Seattle. Oakland will not beat New England.. no chance.. not contenders. Those team this year had 0 chance to win the superbowl.. 0 none notta. Not contenders. PERIOD.
