This Is How You Build An OL (Read this Macc & Todd):

coloradojet · Nov 6, 2018

The Jets had a very good OL the first two seasons under Rex and had one of the best running attacks which took us to two AFC championship games along with a good defense. I remember Wayne Hunter was terrible at RT and we still made it to the AFC championship game against Pittsburgh. The Jets came back from a 24-0 deficit and were in position to tie the game at the end when Hunter telegraphed the play. Another good example of the value of a good OL were the broncos which allowed Terrell Davis to run untouched through big holes. Every other RB after him in Denver did well under the same OL/system. It wasn't that Denver had great RBs but rather that it had a great OL. MaCaroni and Bowels need to be run out of town for neglecting the OL for so long

TonyFtLaud · Nov 7, 2018

coloradojet said: ↑

The Jets had a very good OL the first two seasons under Rex and had one of the best running attacks which took us to two AFC championship games along with a good defense. I remember Wayne Hunter was terrible at RT and we still made it to the AFC championship game against Pittsburgh. The Jets came back from a 24-0 deficit and were in position to tie the game at the end when Hunter telegraphed the play. Another good example of the value of a good OL were the broncos which allowed Terrell Davis to run untouched through big holes. Every other RB after him in Denver did well under the same OL/system. It wasn't that Denver had great RBs but rather that it had a great OL. MaCaroni and Bowels need to be run out of town for neglecting the OL for so long
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Wasn't our RG coordinator the O line coach for every other RB after Davis that did so well under that o line system?

dmw · Nov 14, 2018

boozer32 said: ↑

That is exactly the problem. They have morons right now. Does not matter if we had an all star team. This coaching staff would teach them how to lose.
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But the team is united! In what, I don't know. Apparently, they are united in losing. Oh, and they have great practices.

Attackett · Nov 15, 2018

Draft a LT in first, sign a C in FA, move Long to LG and get a CS that understands modern day football.

AlexJETS · Nov 15, 2018

Look what the Colts have done. They drafted OL last year and Luck has been playing at a high level and has not been sacked in 4 games.

JoeWalton · Nov 20, 2018

Jets have a center who can't execute a proper shotgun snap and we're talking about building a formidable OL? You have to learn to crawl before you can walk.

Quinnenthebeast · Nov 20, 2018

AlexJETS said: ↑

Look what the Colts have done. They drafted OL last year and Luck has been playing at a high level and has not been sacked in 4 games.
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Quinten Nelson is a freak at guard and it’s only his rookie year. I don’t think anyone is as good as him coming out in this draft.

KurtTheJetsFan · Nov 20, 2018

Adamsthebeast said: ↑

Quinten Nelson is a freak at guard and it’s only his rookie year. I don’t think anyone is as good as him coming out in this draft.
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At guard? No.

But Little,Williams,Cajuste & Risner(RT)are elite level OT prospects

CotcheryFan · Nov 20, 2018

KurtTheJetsFan said: ↑

At guard? No.

But Little,Williams,Cajuste & Risner(RT)are elite level OT prospects
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We need to grab one of them if they're available at our draft slot. I don't think McVay could win with our OL. It needs better talent and coaching.

tomdeb · Nov 20, 2018

ColoradoContrails said: ↑

I read this article in today's (11/2/18) NY Times, and while the NYT may not be on everyone's preferred sports reading list, it does have some great articles from time to time. This is one of them. It should be required reading for Macc and Bowles. I was going to try and edit it down to just the main points, but there were so many good ones I decided to include the whole thing. If you don't subscribe to the NYT you might not be able to read the source article, so I cut and pasted it here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/sports/los-angeles-rams-offensive-line.html?rref=collection/sectioncollection/sports&action=click&contentCollection=sports&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=4&pgtype=sectionfront
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Vaunted Line Keeps the Rams’ Offense Uninterrupted

Sure, Jared Goff and Todd Gurley are great, but it’s the linemen who allow the most potent offense in the N.F.C. to do its thing.

By Ben Shpigel

November 2, 2018

THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — There are two ways, and only two, to watch a football game, according to the Hall of Fame offensive tackle Jackie Slater.

If a team’s offensive line is porous, he said, he focuses on the line of scrimmage, wondering from where the defensive pressure will come, because it’s difficult to pay attention to anything else. But if the line is stout, he concentrates instead on the quarterback, then the play as it unfolds.

“When I’ve been watching the Rams, I’ve been watching the quarterback a whole lot,” Slater said. “I think most other people are, too. And that’s what they want to watch. That’s what makes the Rams so appealing.”

Across his two decades with the Rams, Slater took pride in compelling people to watch the quarterback. He now marvels at a team that has rushed for the most yards in the N.F.L., passed for the fourth most and scored more points than every other team but the Kansas City Chiefs, all behind a beastly offensive line.

The Rams’ five players up front synchronize blocks that spring running back Todd Gurley through chasms and ward off blitzers so quarterback Jared Goff can throw to a cadre of dynamic receivers. That has fueled the franchise’s best start since 1969 — 8-0, heading into Sunday afternoon’s game at New Orleans — and optimized the viewing experience for the best offense in the N.F.C.

“You see it around the league all the time: All these skill positions can be erased without a good line — they can’t get the ball, they can’t get rid of the ball, they can’t run with it,” Goff said recently, sitting at a picnic table outside the Rams’ facility here. “When I see a pressure that’s hard to pick up and no one ever gets close to me, I sit back there nice and clean and look good throwing the ball — that’s all everyone’s going to see. But I know, and we all know, how hard it is up there.”

The Rams’ line, graded the most efficient at pass blocking by Pro Football Focus, is a hodgepodge of talent that reflects the team’s priorities: intelligence and athleticism, savvy centers and powerful tackles who understand the geometry of the sport, and guards who can dominate on the line but also block in space. They are linemen who, as General Manager Les Snead put it, can get in the way and then stay in the way.

The line consists of holdovers acquired through the draft, like left guard Rodger Saffold and right tackle Rob Havenstein; free-agent splurges like the two-time All-Pro left tackle Andrew Whitworth, who played his first 11 seasons in Cincinnati, and center John Sullivan, who played for Rams Coach Sean McVay in Washington and has been instrumental in easing Goff’s transition; and a waiver claim, Austin Blythe, who supplanted the suspended Jamon Brown at right guard for the first two games and never relinquished the job.

The line’s stability is also revealed by the synchronicity of the linemen’s movements — in the lateral steps they take when run-blocking so that Gurley, the league’s leading rusher, can find a crease and zip through it. According to Football Outsiders, the Rams rank first in adjusted line yards, a statistic it developed to measure offensive line performance by isolating its impact on a running play.

“Remember those videos where people did a flash mob?” O’Hara, a three-time Pro Bowl center who spent most of his playing career with the Giants, said in a telephone interview. “Everybody starts dancing and wow, all of a sudden, everyone’s on the same page. They didn’t say anything. They just played the music and everybody knew. Nobody was stepping on each other’s feet. When you look at the Rams, they all have the same footwork, everybody’s got the same fluid motions.”

The Rams’ proficiency on first downs diversifies their options: No team averages more yards rushing (5.7) or passing (11.5) on first-and-10 than the Rams do. Their efficiency prevents unfavorable down-and-distance situations, in which defenses can expect a pass.

“Sometimes we just explode, and it feels like we’re unstoppable,” Saffold said. “But that’s because all 11 guys know what they’re doing all the time.”

That awareness is a central principle of McVay’s philosophy. Coaches are only as good as what the players know and thus can do. The best-designed plays can implode if a player forgets a detail. Before last season, McVay’s first as coach, the offensive linemen recognized they were not being coached so much as being taught.

In his 13th season, Whitworth said he had yet to encounter a scheme that placed greater responsibilities on an offensive line because of the “mental gymnastics” demanded. The personnel in McVay’s offense rarely changes (one running back, one tight end and three receivers are the norm), but the system, aside from an expansive playbook, features loads of tempos, cadences and no-huddle elements, in which just a word or two signifies a play.

There were times when the offensive line coach, Aaron Kromer, who now also coordinates the run game, would walk into the position room during the week and, before installing new plays, preface his remarks with a caveat. He would tell the players to calm down, that there would be a lot to process that day.

But, Kromer said, he went on to explain everything and why it was critical that they understood it. That notion ran counter, players said, to how some other teams seem to approach coaching: ordering a block on a certain player on a certain play, for instance, without conveying the reasoning behind it.

“Any time we have a meeting,” Havenstein said, “it’s why are we doing it. It’s how we are doing it.”

On Wednesday mornings, when the Rams reconvene after a day off to begin planning for their next opponent, Kromer greets the linemen by discussing defense, not offense. On Fridays, the entire offense gathers to review where, and how, defenders fill the gaps on rushing plays.

Having that foundational knowledge allows the linemen to adjust over the course of a game, as they did in the second half last Sunday against Green Bay.

“It gives you a lot of confidence to realize I’m never going to be put in a position where what I’m being asked to do isn’t sound football,” Whitworth said. “You understand the concepts of what they need to do to make their defense work and how you’re going to counteract that instead of being told what to do.”

Slater observed this phenomenon in person twice, the last two springs, when he and other former Rams stars were invited to attend off-season workouts. Sitting in on an offensive meeting that first year, Slater watched McVay drill every position group — from receivers to running backs, quarterbacks to linemen — on five plays. The next year, McVay did the same thing — only this time, the nuances were deeper, the minutiae more intricate. When McVay quizzed receiver Brandin Cooks, who had been acquired about two months earlier, he knew all the answers.

“Everybody else did, too,” said Slater, who now coaches the offensive line at Azusa Pacific University. “Everybody understood why that particular detail was so important to the play.”

The jets will NEVER have a good OL, much less a great one, with Mike McIdiot as GM. Anyone who believes and even announces that he will build an OL with mid round picks and free agents is clueless!! Two total OL selected in 4 drafts and both in round 5. Look at his moronic 2017 draft --ZERO AND I MEAN ZERO, offensive lineman AND defensive lineman drafted. But he did draft FOUR DBs and THREE receivers in that one draft. Mike McPuke thinks the game is won outside the numbers exclusively. Dumb dip!!!!
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statjeff22 · Nov 25, 2018

Hey, they improved both the center and guard positions by moving Long to guard. He played by far his best game of the season.

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