The only reason it was the "perfect play call" is because we converted. If the Texans had taken over on downs at our end of the field and quickly scored, everybody would have been rightfully going, "WTF was that all about?" If you have an excellent punter and a good defense (and you're confident in them), there's no reason to not pin them deep in their own territory while you're ahead. You then force them to play uphill and make even more mistakes, penalties and turnovers. I don't know. We could probably Monday-morning-quarterback this thing into oblivion and never arrive at an answer. I'm not opposed to doing unusual, unexpected things, mind you. This is one of the reasons why I like Mangini so much... that he's NOT afraid to do the unconventional. I just think there will be other situations that present themselves in which this would be a more favorable call. I'm in agreement with those who like to mix it up and aren't afraid to make the questionable call, I just don't think yesterday, at that time, was an ideal time for it.
Good for Nuge today, hopefully that kick gives him the confidence he needs to move on strongly and make all the ones he should....
The ONLY reason I liked the call is that our "Prevent" Defense is the worst thing ever. If we did not get to run another 5 min off the clock after the 4-down, I do not know what would have happened.
Right on, Jtuds. I read in The Star-Ledger this morning that Mangini, Westhoff and Nugent actually have a "meeting" before every game to get a feel for Nugent's confidence level and how well his warmup went. Nugent said that yesterday he felt comfortable at about 57 yards! Sure enough, that 54-yarder went through with about 3 more yards to spare. His kickoffs are still lacking but those FG's yesterday were good to see.
I don't agree. It showed 0 confidence in the D because he was scared to give the ball up. Going for it was not sealing the game up... so the gain was far outweighed by the risk. Give the rock up there and it's 23-10 in a heartbeat. It was a terrible call that worked. Now, it was a BETTER call than the onside kick, but that's not saying too much.
How much of a risk was there really though? In a situation where a team is stacking the line that is an extremely tough play to defend, and the way they bit and all spread out when the backfield emptied success was all but assured, barring a fumbled snap or something.
Does anyone know if Mangini actually made this call? It looked to me that the Jets were going to let the clock wind down and then Pennington called an audible that sent 5 wide out. When Houston didn't/could'nt react, it looked to me that Chad called that sneak on his own with Mangold. I haven't read anything on the actual call for that play, but would be curious to actually how it developed.
He had a ton of leg in one of his kickoffs. He's got the power, I just think he aims too hard, so to speak.
Certainly a lot less risk than the onside kick. I don't think success was all but assured. I'd say 80% success, which is not a bad gamble, but way too high of risk (because even with the 80% success rate, it didn't INSURE the game). Punt, and the game is over just as well unless our name is the Giants..
He made the call, h sent the O out ther and if they got the right look they were going to run the play- if not they would call TO and punt.
The call was great because the play was great. The motion on the play completely through Houston into a panic. The way the package of players exploded out was well executed.
Thats what it looked like to me. It looked like Pennington wanted to see what they would do when he spread the receivers. Quite honestly, I think Pennington was shocked when the Texans started sending everyone but the nose tackle out to protect against the receivers. If the Texans had acted normally and just sent out one on one coverage and kept the box full, you just get the feeling the Jets would have called timeout and punted.
I agree. I thought houston was going to call a time out there. I loved the call. I think 4th and 1 -- you really stomp on a team when you make it -- especially in the middle of the field. The D thinks they have stopped you and then all of a sudden they didnt. (As i said earlier, the pats do this ALL the time).
Exactly my point 3rd. The texans started running around like a chinese fire drill...that was the least amount of players in the box I have ever seen on a qb sneak in my life.
