I don't think Mac had much choice but to resign Fitz , between the Marshall,Mangold and Decker campaign for him, plus their sitting out OTAs, Gailey , Bowles and Woody all stating"Fitz is our starting QB" when he wasn't even under contract completely undermined Mac and gave Fitz all the leverage. I agree that the QB needs game experience to fully develop but I'll say something I don't think will be very popular here. I don't know that this Franchise has given up on Hack and Petty and both may very well be in the future plans going forward. I can imagine the meltdown we will witness on the board if that's the case but I honestly think we could very well go into 2018 with the same 3 QBs currently on the roster.
Have you watched the Jets this year? To say they are talentless is beyond ridiculous. They pretty much have underachieved given all the games they've blow. Kearse and Anderson have no talent? McCown is having a career year, the two rookies safeties are excellent, probably have 2 or 3 Pro Bowlers, but yet, we're 5-7 and everyone is giddy. The ceiling for this team was always 7-9. How does that in any way help this team moving forward? We should have taken a look at the young QBs in a real game and looked towards a high pick next year. I'm not happy with a losing season, especially one that keeps us far from a good pick and far from the playoffs. If I was GM I would fire the coach, hire a young offensive mind, move heaven and earth to get a top two pick (give up several picks, since we've already seen data on how most of the picks don't pan out and how a first round QB has a 3 times better chance of succeeding than any QB after the first round, and look to build an exciting team with an actual Face of the Franchise! If we have to go the free agent route, sign Cousins and try and get Barkely. Strengthen the O-Line with our second round pick/s, and look for cornerback help in free agency or the draft. Also, another lineman in free agency. Boom!
I don't doubt what you say about the 3 QB all coming back. The issues is why aren't the other two playing now. The playoffs are long gone so why not develop them in real time games. McCown thank you for your service now hold this clipboard.
I don't blame Macc. He had no options. Plus the Jets were this close to making the playoffs with Fitz. He had his best year statistically and Gailey was still calling the plays. Now fast forward to today you'll see the same thing happening. Sorry McCown will come back at an inflated price tag and the Jets will suck again next year.
No argument from me regarding Hack and Petty, I think they probably like one or both more than what some of the folks here think. But I do also believe they will draft a QB. The question is in what round. The earlier they pull the trigger or worst if they trade up in the first rounds is a sure recognition that they don't believe they have the answer in house. If they don't draft one till the later rounds, then you might be 100% on the money.
Did you read what i wrote? "At the beginning of the year", you thought the team was loaded with talent? If so, you were one of the very very few. Kudos... Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
When you take what was projected to be a historically bad offense with a 38 year old nobody journeyman QB, and have them somehow in the middle of the pack with the QB having a career year and possibly two thousand yard receivers (one who joined the team at the 11th hour and had to be brought up to speed) and when that team is somehow playing meaningful football in December mainly because of you and not the middling coach....you get to make a few demands for next year. Mortons earned the trust and the respect with what he's done Not saying we shouldn't draft a QB. We should and we will. But if he wants McCown for 2018, I'll give him McCown
I was just there the other day. I guess many folks still think its closed. This may explain why it was so easy to get a reservation. The building renovations are complete and I can say my wife and I had a wonderful time. The food was great and I didn't leave hungry. There was a pretty blond woman singing some jazz and pop songs by the fireplace that we enjoyed after the meal. Very romantic. Granted the bill was huge but I got even by leaving a big dump in the men's room.
EFF NO! I'll be livid if the Jets are seriously thinking of bringing back McCown in 2018. With all the other veteran QB options either via trade or UFA, the draft options that could be available to them for them to bring back Mccown in 2018 would be a SOJ move to make. I appreciate what McCown has done this season for the Jets he came to us with a 2-20 record in his previous 22 starts he's played better than I ever could've imagined before the season but this is it this is as good as it's gonna get with him 6-10, 7-9, 8-8 whichever record they end this season with. Many people had this team going 0-16 before the season this regime can't afford to rest on their laurels here. They got a reprieve their maij goal this coming offseason should be to once and for all UPGRADE/find a LONG TERM answer at QB trade for Andrew Luck, trade or sign Eli then draft a QB in round 1 some sort of plan that shows they are building towards a championship. Next year will be year four for these guys at what point do the expectations become challenge for a division title, make the playoffs, SB run? They're 0 for 3 already. We've had more successful regimes than this one get ****canned after four or five years.
Short of landing Luck or Cousins, the Jets should absolutely bring back McCown. He's been a top 15 QB all season, and is a much better option than a washed up Eli at this point. Of course, I'd pair him with a high draft pick should the right opportunity arise.
The playoffs are still possible but we know that isn't happening. I understand wanting to see Hack and Petty and them getting playing time but I think the reason McCown is still playing , in fact I am pretty sure of it, is 1 the team is still progressing, and he has been instrumental in the process and 2 the team is playing hard, are unified as a team and hungry to win. Pulling McCown would send the message to the team that winning is no longer a priority and that would not play well in the locker room. Look across the state and see how that worked for the Giants and Bills. No one expected this team to be nearly as competitive as they have been, to have as many wins as they do, to be playing meaningful games in December or for McCown to be playing as well as he has. He'll most thought he would get injured in camp or last 3 games at most before going on the IR. The team is playing much better than anyone expected and that's why McCown is still starting.
I'm not sure about them drafting a QB. Darnold should go back to school. He is no where near ready to play in the NFL and he disappointed this season, even with all the off-season work he put in. Rosen may not come out and if he does , he isn't going to be available for us . The Browns are going to finally take a QB with the first pick. I think it will be Lamar Jackson. That's who Hue Jackson covets and he has Haslam's support for some reason. The Giants will take Rosen if he declares or Allen who with a year or two behind Manning will be a great QB. I can't see trading up for a project QB and we saw this year, there are not enough reps for 3 QBs let alone 4. McCown will be back, Hack will be back and unless someone offers a good trade Petty will be back. Things can change, there will be changes in the pre draft rankings, the combine , arrest, rumors will all shake things up but this is where things appear to stand as of now.
I think the Giants really want Darnold, and he would be a good fit behind Eli. I so hope he stays in school, or that the Browns take him for that reason. It's possible the Giants would take Rosen, but it doesn't seem as good a fit to me. I can't see them taking a running QB like Jackson, and Allen is a big risk to take that high. If they don't get Darnold they may try to trade back a couple slots and add some picks. The Jets are sitting at a decent spot to take a shot on Allen, or going the 2nd round option on a QB like Thorson/Stidham..
Darnold really needs another year in school. He makes one read , and takes off running if his primary Reciever is covered, has a terrible release and his footwork is just bad. Never goes through his progressions. This led to multiple fumbles on top of his interceptions. I don't get what people are seeing when they watch him play. He is going to need alot of work and time. I'm high on Allen and think he will rise on big boards before the draft. Jackson is going to the Browns. I still think Rosen goes to the Giants if he comes out. He is the most NFL ready prospect of all the QBs in this year's draft and I think Manning will be traded in the off-season so they need a QB who is ready to play. Darnold and Allen are not ready to start year 1. Thorson/Stidham in the second are possible and would probably mean Petty is released. I still think Mac believes in Hack . There will be lots of changes in the rankings and QB needy teams will also be active in free agency. Bradford, Cousins, Bridgewater will all be available and take some teams out of the draft equation.
Darnold is a flawed prospect for sure, but the Giants could develop him for 1-2 years behind Eli, which he needs. I don't think the Giants can trade Eli's huge contract as bad as he's played. They will either keep or cut him, so he can choose his own team. I think they should keep him. Agree on Jackson potentially going to the Browns, although I'm not sold that is a good move for them. I do like Allen as well, but he for sure comes with risk. Drafting him is essentially drafting his physical skillset and intangibles, as his tape lacks. That is dangerous ground. I need to see him prove himself in a more high skilled environment like the senior bowl, which could end up elevating his stock. Rosen is the most pro ready yes, but is he Jay Cutler? He's got some major red flags from a personality standpoint if you ask me. This QB draft is deep with prospects, but none are very clean or blue chip. Picking in the 10-15 range is not a bad place to be, although the best value may just be at the very top of round 2. Thorson is a prospect I'm very interested in, and wouldn't doubt he rises as we get closer to the draft.
Lamar Jackson @ 1? No way dude. I think his stock goes up after the combine, but I don't think he gets into the top 5.
I want McCown back, but certainly not at Fitz prices. Although, I don't believe he asks for that kind of money either? A raise? You bet your ass. I figure somewhere around 7 or 8 million? He'll only be here to grease the skids for his eventual successor that's not currently on the team. The Jets probably won't need him for the whole season anyway? This is much ado about nothing IMO....
