I think Todd Bowles lost his job yesterday-who replaces him?

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  1. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR
    1. John Butler (Texans DBs coach): Mike Vrabel’s promotion to defensive coordinator could put Butler next on the list of coordinators-to-be in Houston. Bill O’Brien said last year that Butler has a future as both a coordinator and, eventually, a head coach in the NFL.

    2. Perry Fewell (Jaguars DBs coach): He took his knocks as the Giants’ defensive coordinator and eventually was dismissed, but he also helped bring a Super Bowl title back to the Big Apple. While Fewell wouldn’t be a sexy hire for an expansion club, there is something to be said for finding a steady hand to help a new franchise.

    3. Adam Zimmer (Vikings linebackers coach): Zimmer is just 33 years old, so he’s a bit of a “wild card” in his own right. That said, he’s been an assistant in the league since 2006 and has spent the past four years on his dad’s staff, where he’s helped oversee impressive development from the likes of Anthony Barr.

    Wild card: Mike Pettine (ex-Browns head coach, Bills/Jets coordinator): Pettine’s defenses ranked top 10 in yards allowed all five seasons he served as a defensive coordinator. He’s bound to get another shot to run a defense in the league.
     
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    1. Nick Caserio (Patriots director of player personnel): A similar conversation to the earlier one involving Matt Patricia, in that it might be impossible to swipe Caserio from the Patriots. If it were possible, he’d be the prime candidate.

    2. George Paton (Vikings assistant GM): The Chiefs recently took a run at Paton, only to be rebuffed. The odd timing of that job coming open could have a played a role; Paton should hear his phone ring again next offseason. Paton has been with the Vikings for upwards of a decade now.


    3. Ryan Cowden (Titans director of player personnel): A rising star in the future-GM ranks, Cowden did interview with the Chiefs earlier this summer. Cowden was a scout in the Panthers’ system for 16 years before the Titans came calling. He should receive another upgrade before long.

    Wild card: Louis Riddick (ex-Redskins/Eagles director of player personnel, current TV analyst): Far from a Matt Millen-level situation because of Riddick’s extensive experience within NFL front offices. He was rumored to be a Chiefs candidate, too, although he denied those reports.
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Todd Bowles isn't going anywhere next year. The real question is, does he get his extension or not. If this team is so emotionally fragile that they cannot survive a QB change, they'll devolve into pop warner child players if the Owner changes the HC. If Toddy doesn't get his extension this year, he still has 2018 to prove he deserves one or not. Maybe if Macc can find a pair of balls and go Offense in rd. 1 for once, he'd be doing Bowles a favor. 2017 isn't the year of change, but I have a feeling 2018 will be exactly that.
     
  4. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    While I am afraid we may be stuck with Bowles for another year I do not see him getting an extension until we have a winning record.
     
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    One would hope. He should be canned, but I agree, he likely won't be and we'll be suffering through more of the same crap in 2018. He doesn't deserve an extension. Maybe, just maybe, if he were on a one year deal it would light a fire under his ass to start improving in all of the areas he still is clueless in, almost 3 full years into the job.
     
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    WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I have read all these potential Coaching Candidate Threads and Hasty this is a tremendous body of work you covered at 740 AM no less

    THREAD OF THE YEAR imo

    There IS life after Todd Bowles ya know

    Kudos and Great Job here:)
     
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    I'm very intrigued by Frank Reich - I think Bowles is future is decided with the remaining schedule and how we perform. Certainly losses against the Bucs and after the Bye versus the Panthers don't look great. Think CJ will be looking at how the team performs, do they still have the same intensity now that they're pretty much out of the PO. Do they quit? What happens if we lose and McCown is benched for Petty or Hack? Will the intensity and locker room cohesion still be there?

    All things that Bowles will likely be judged on.

    Personally, I'm very worried with Bowles as he has not been able to fix his mistakes that have been present for 3 seasons now. When a coach can't learn from his mistakes and address them, it likely means he never will be able to address them. Are we all ready to accept that we'll continue to take stupid time outs, challenges, lack in game adjustments, etc.?

    I personally don't think the team is a SB contender with him, but I also think that's due in part because until we have a FQB we'll always be at a disadvantage.

    I think its possible he's brought back, I don't think he gets an extension though. It would be completely unwarranted.

    I think the Jets brass are very in tune with social media and the temperature of the fan base. I think there's a lot of apathy shared by many fans because Bowles is very monotone and although I have no problem with being levelheaded - sometimes you would want the coach to go nuts after a loss, or a bad ref call, or whatever it is. Secondly, fans want the team to finally find a FQB to contend with. Having McCown win games does nothing for fans because it's short lived success that has 0 carryover to the future.
     
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    They were just talking about the Jets talent yesterday on the radio and how everyone underestimated the ability on this team. Mac's late summer additions and the rookies playing so well were never part of the pre-season prognostications. The Jets, in fact, do have a lot more talent than people had thought and only having 4 wins is not a good job by this coach. He does not make good in game adjustments and is poor at clock mgmt. People saying the Jets don't have talent is complete nonsense. What they don't have is a coach and QB that knows how to win. They aren't a playoff team, but average in a league full of average teams. Being below average is on the coach and QB. Not putting all your focus on the future of this team right now screams of selfishness to me. We have 7 losses in the bank with the Saints, Pats, Chargers, and, this week, the Chiefs to come. All of those seem like losses to me. Away at Denver will be tough too. Why don't we make this team interesting the last few weeks and see what the kids have?
     
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    How about Lovie Smith? He could be potentially be had from Illinois.
     
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    Do they have more talent than expected or is Bowles maximizing the talent he has?
    People tend to focus the positive to the ones they like and take credit away from the ones they don’t. I’m thinking it’s a little of both.
     
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    Keep Mac and Bowles we'll be in the same position in 5 years
     
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    Thanks for the research JamesHasty! And I like your choices, Todd Haley and Russ Grimm, though I doubt either would accept anything less than the top job, so getting them both probably won't work. It would be great if it did though.

    I definitely prefer somebody with HC experience though. As great a mind as an coordinator might have, having to manage and control all aspects of a team is a whole 'nuther deal. That's a big reason why Bowles is struggling IMO. And some coordinators can never make that jump. Bowles may one day make it - he has shown some ability - but he's not there yet, and I really don't think he'll "get it" with the Jets. That's why Haley would probably be my first choice, although Jim Harbaugh - if he becomes available - might be a good choice too, but Haley's offensive abilities would be great for us.

    Sadly, I think Bowles stays. I think Macc (and the Johnsons) believe that "slow and steady wins the race", but that's with turtles and rabbits, not sports teams. How many teams have we seen turned around in a year or two from awful to SB-caliber, while the Jets stumble along in mediocrity? Look at two of the "hot coaches" in this list, Haley and McDaniels, both were canned after two years, because their owners/FO didn't tolerate the slow pace. But Jets fans have shown their willingness to accept DECADES of failure, so what's a few more years, right?

    Well, this Jets fan isn't accepting any more mediocrity. Show me that you're serious about building a winner, starting with investing massively on a FQB and the offensive pieces to support him, or I'm done.
     
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    If U accept the theory that Belly is the best HC in the AFC then rate all 15 others to Belly benchmark & then U would have a idea how good TB is. Me I would rate him in the lowest rung of the 16 AFC coaches meaning between 12 & 16 :mad:
     
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    Bowles is not a good coach and if he were there wouldn't be a conversation about it.
     
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    Contradiction with that because they have been in almost every game but can never close. So they are talented enough to get on top of team but their head coach keeps blowing it for them. You know dumb stuff like punting when you're down instead having balls and going for the win. I have no use for coaches with no guts.
     
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    They are winning because of coach Morton. He is scoring points with a bum QB, a UDFA WR in Anderson, a resurgent ASJ and limited running attack. Its the defensive clowns Bowles and Rodgers that can't stop anyone when it counts.
     
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    It is on the coaching staff and win & losses is how that is determined. Only Jets fans think losing closely is ok and warrants retaining bad coaches. Bowles is a bad coach and deserves to be fire. Penalties are on him as the team is not coached good enough and last week Pennel had a dumb penalty. That goes to the coach discipline which Bowles has now nor does instill discipline on the team. He's got to have a conversation with Anderson in games antics after GAME 13. That's lack of discipline. That all falls on coaching and especially the head coach.
     
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    Not alone Colorado. Bowles is a first half 3/4 coach. We need a coach who can get them through till the end.
     
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    The Jets have more talent than Cleveland. The rest not so much.
    Now it's the staff that's good. Sorry Bowles will be the coach for a few more years and if he get offensive talent in FA and the draft a lot longer than that.
     
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