In 2 years we will have the most cap in the NFL if we don't sign any major FAs. That's with Mo's contract included. Jets have a lot of options in terms of what they can do with the defensive line.
Hopefully we will sign some free agents next year and in 2 years including extending some of our young players, Enunwa and Williams come to mind. I agree there are lots of options with the D line, especially over the next 2 years but none of this has anything to really do with my post you quoted. I was just making a point that the cap # for next year was way off and that the OP's suggestion of tendering Richardson was not an option..
I generally agree with this, but if they do trade up and get a piece to lock down a position for years to come like with Mangold, it is worth it. I would rather see them stockpile picks and trade down, but if it is for a QB or important position on the oline I'd be willing.
Jets have to be smart with the cap for sure. Can't go back to the Revis type acquisitions. Old, past their prime type players. BTW, I only quoted your post because of the cap space and how we should look at that going forward. More-so an addition to your post, not do debate against your point.
just looked and yeah updated number is 58 mil. still a huge chunk of money. plus plenty we can shave off (decker 7.5mil, forte 3 mil, ghilcrest 6mil) so another potential 16.5mil in savings putting us around 74.5mil save like 8 for the rookies so 66.5mil to spend. more then enough for a rebuilding team. and we don't have many players to resign (williams will be final year, claiborne is on a 1 year prove it deal) We can't tender him but we can franchise and trade (like we did with abraham years ago) if richardson stays out of trouble and returns to form (10 sack season) he will get us at least a 2nd rounder if not a 1st. Pass rushing DEs are highly sought after. if he has another down season we let him walk and get a comp pick (maybe 3rd or 4th) IF we let him walk now we would be lucky to get anything of value.
I really think that Fitz and for sure Revis were Woody's doing. Let's hope he lets Mac build the team and he keeps out of player acquisitions going forward.
Really the only hope is he has a big contract year and we can get some return on the investment , however, if he does perform at his past level and Mo has another down year , it's entirely possible that Mo is sent packing and Sheldon gets his money. Either way, the circumstances (Mo's injury , Sheldon's suspension) caused us to loose a premium pick for either player.
If Sheldon wasn't so wild, I'd consider keeping him but there's no telling what could happen. We could end up with nothing but a wrecked lockeroom, trade him now for a 3rd or 4th rounder with a conditional second pick next year that will be based off his play. I liked Sheldon since his days at Mizz, he jumped off the screen and I was glad when he was selected by the Jets War Room. Unfortunately, I truly believe he will never reach his full potential and that more off the field issues will mar his reputation around the league.
Sheldon is a crazy talent. But I do not know what his status is right now. Is he one of those guys who if he spits on the sidewalk he is gone, or does he still have some play? Whatever. The way we handled Mo tells me we will screw the pooch with Sheldon. We will either hang on to him and lose him to suspension or flight. Or we will get little value for him, since he is a crazy man---and TB turned him into a LB this past year and made him invisible a lot of the time. Perhaps the best bet is to stick him inside all year and hope that he plays great and gives us a good comp pick when he leaves.
The Jets are only going to get a comp pick for Richardson if they sign no free agents next year. It just isn't structurally sound to plan to let him go that way given the way things are stacking up. The exception would be if the Jets were planning to use all the cap space next year to re-up people like Enunwa, Leo Williams, Calvin Pryor (if he has a good year), etc. Then they wouldn't be signing many free agents and maybe no impact guys and if Richardson signed a 3+ year deal somewhere and had a good year the Jets would probably get a 3rd or 4th out of him. Personally I think the Jets should pick Richardson or Mo and trade them this season, during the draft if possible or by the end of camp if not. We're overloaded with 3-4 DE's and the team has a lot of holes to fill elsewhere. Even a 3rd round pick would help in that regard. I know it's not a popular point of view but we need to stop clinging to players at any cost. There's no single player out there, particularly on defense, that is going to put us over the top and handing out these huge contracts makes it less likely we will keep a bunch of good defenders happy, and that's what you need - a bunch of good defenders.
The problem with trying to lock down a position is that the NFL is essentially a random lottery because you never know who is going to catch a knee or a back or any of the myriad other things that can retire a player early or make them much less effective moving forward. That's why having as many picks as you can possibly make in the early rounds is key to long-term NFL success. In later rounds you're just getting a jump on the UDFA process but in the first 4 or 5 rounds there's real quality there that will not be available when the draft is over. Trading those early picks away is just like putting your eggs in one basket and if that basket gets dropped you wind up with broken eggs. This effect is more responsible for the state the Jets are in than anything else. The 2000 draft was more responsible for our early 2000's success than anything else. 4 1sts and Coles in the 2nd. We need more drafts like that. Figuring out how to get a future 1st out of Mo or Richardson would go a long way towards creating that kind of opportunity.
I have been told the meat of many a draft is the bottom 10 of round one, entire second round, and front half of the third.
I remember a fairly good player that had some down years and became a locker room cancer and was acquired by the jets for a 6 Rd pick I think. Brandon Marshall. I believe Sheldon Richardson will be slightly more valued but he is in that mindset for teams right now. I think if we could get a pick any pick plus maybe improve one of our picks in the trade like a 5th rounder and we swap our comp 3rd for another teams third. I really think his value is that low. Richardson is not getting us anything if he walks next year...We will be signing more free agents than we lose with how much cap space we have.
which is still another reason why it's better to keep him one more year then to sell him when his value is at an all time low.
I can see the argument for keeping Richardson but, also, I think keeping him could be a longer term problem as long as we intend to keep Bowles around as coach. Not sure what it is but the two simply do not seem to jive.
Ughhhh...I had to be resuscitated after Presidential Election! lol Seriously, though...been super busy and letting the offseason take its' course. Draft is a week or so out and need to get back in the saddle! How have you been?
Of course we should keep him as the window to trade him and get anything good in return closed 4-5 months ago. The problem is we have no money to sign him and no money to franchise him next year which means he just walks away.
At this point i kinda agree we should just keep him, his value is little to nothing and he's too good to just trade away for a 4th rounder, when u can keep him in his contract year and get a comp pick if he leaves. Theres needs to be more rotations and more alignments/sets that uses all 3 guys. Leo can play nose because he's more than capable . I don't pretend to know more than Bowles but i just don't get why we don't play this outright more often. We should have honestly traded Mo 2 years, we should have never been in this mess.
