Nov. 6, 2006 Home > The Way We Hear It ~ ~ ~ NY Jets After throwing for 300-plus yards in consecutive games to start the season (the first time he had ever put together back-to-back 300-yard days as a pro), QB Chad Pennington reached the 200-yard mark only once in the next six games. We hear that Pennington?s arm strength is not an issue. In fact, he has said that his surgically repaired throwing arm couldn?t feel any better. Word is, the issue is that the passing game?s rhythm is off, and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer has made restoring that rhythm a priority. ?It goes back to the ?me to you factor,? and Eric Mangini and I talk about this all the time. The passing game is about one thing, in my opinion; it?s about the trust between the quarterback and the people he?s throwing to. We need to get back to some of the things we were doing in training camp. It gets limited when you?re in the season, because guys are worn down and a little bit tired. We need to improve that. Chad throwing, them catching, the specifics of the routes, ?Here?s my split.? ?Here?s my depth.? And once we do that, I think we?ll get back to throwing the ball the way we were in the beginning of the year.? > http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/default.htm?mode=afceast
it's amazing -- he never had back-to-back 300-yard games and still got that mega contract. i don't think that's how you gauge QB's... but damn. cheers
damn can we give this guy a full season, damn. To put it simply, he's not that bad that you would have to put in a rookie for the rest of the season or even a game barring he gets injured. Did he have one horrible game this season? No. Not horrible. The only thing i can think of is the browns game, and the reason why we lost that game is because of the two 3rd down plays they called brad smith in.
Actually the Browns game he was horrible. Missed several key throws to receivers that were open for critical 1st downs and two possible TDs. Not to mention the INTs. What was the QB rating?? Under 30 I think-- and he threw for less than 100 yards also I think. And, as the leader of the offense he led us to 6 points. If that is not a horible game I seriously question your criteria for evaluating QBs.
The leader of our offense needs to be in the game on at least one of those 2 key 3rd downs. He had a bunch of passes batted down, which isnt necessarily his fault, but can be. As far as missing several key throws to receivers that were open, what plays are you talking about? I didn't see any. I'm not saying he had a great or even decent game, I'm just saying that we need to give this more than these games to evaluate him as our starting QB. Oh yeah, and jacksonville i forgot about that. He just sucked then.
The problem is in Schottenheimer and Mangini's playcalling. It's become predictable--I'd like to see a few more playfakes and a willingness to work the ball on the sidelines. That would open up the field for Pennington to start putting up big numbers again.
I don't think penny has the arm to throw the deep out consistently, so I'm not sure how you'd work the sidelines.
As of right now Chad is 6-2. He has had 6 good games and 2 bad ones (Cleveland and Jacksonville). Lets see how he does the next 8. Let the guy play one full season.
Your definition of good is different than mine. From where I'm looking, he laid an egg against the Patriots, and played half a game against Miami. So I will put it at 4.5-3.5. I'm not actually convinced he was good in the other games, but that's about as generous as I can be. I really only think he had 2 good games, at the very beginning of the deason, and another 2 acceptable games. We don't really need a full season, the next 2 games will tell us everything we need to know. If he plays like he did against the Browns or Jags the next 2 weeks, you have to start Clemens the rest of the season and see what he can do. At 4-6, we'd be done.
I dunno, I still think we're looking at every one of the last 6 games as winnable, so Pennington probably stays in place until the season's end.
seems like a great time for a break from games this week. Hope Pennington has got his shit together for a big game next week
The Reason why I said 6 is because, even though he kind of struggled in some of those 6 games, he still kept the Jets in the games. Sometimes, thats all you need from a quarterback.
Ill agree that they took the ball out of chad's hands on those two 3rd down plays, but he played like crap for the entire game. We also had problems with our pass rush ,run blocking and offensive line so he had some weight on his shoulders and was running for his life if not really then mentally.
Not with our remaining schedule. But you're not making the playoffs at 9-7. So if the Jets do indeed lose to the Bears and Pats, the first loss after that should signal the end for Pennington and Clemens' call.
Peyton Manning did not have 3 straight 300 yard games before this year but does not negate the contract he got or the fact he is one of the best QBs of all time.
We simply are not going to win every game we're supposed to win. I'm assuming you have the Vikings game as the other loss, although I'm not too sure about that. I think we'd have 2 more losses at least, so we're looking at 8-8. That's not a bad record for a rebuilding year, it's what I had predicted before the season started. But I think we're better off with Clemens getting us to that record, since we'd know that Pennington can't get us wins against good defenses if he does in fact stink the next 2 weeks. Obviously if Pennington shows he is the man the next 2 weeks, you have to give him credit and the Jets begin to look like a serious playoff team, but seriously, how many people really expect that?
i think this is the most rational and realistic way of looking at it. should Pennington play well and win big games against both the Pats and Bears, he remains the starter as we'll be in contention (and have an outside chance at winning the Division). but if he plays poorly - meaning scared, turning the ball over, constant checkdowns - and we lose to both the Pats and Bears, in all likelihood, the season is over. so why not see what we have in Clemens? will Chad really be our QB when we make a run in the next 3 years? in my opinion, no. but i don't know more than the coaching staff, so we'll see. cheers
