wait but according to Couch coaches. miller is a cancer and uncoachable.. yet somehow mangini loves him and he regained his starting job back.. even with the fact that barrett is healthy and played last week.
You were kind enough to highlight the Mangini comment. What did you expect him to say? "Right now, Justin can't cover to save his ass." or "I woudn't have picked a guy like him in the 2nd round" or "I went with Coleman, the lesser of 2 evils."
and when since has mangini cared..if a player was doing as bad as you were saying he woulda been cut.. ala strait... and even if he didnt want to do that were is the great saviour david barrett at? 4th cb on the depth chart he is so much better than miller yet he cant beat out co9leman for the nickle slot.. of a "Worst cb in football" justin miller.
I don't think that is a good stat to have. It is pretty much sayign we gave up a shit-load of touchdowns so he had a ton of oppurtunities to get return yards.
oh please. we hear about this "he's developing...he has good natural ability...needs use the right technique" crap over and over again. this guy hasnt developed a bit as a cornerback since we drafted him
this coming from the guy who thinks Robertson has been dominating.funny thing is this ur same excuse for robertson who is a 4 year player he is learning who to play NT. maybe if our dline step up and got pressure.. our secondary wouldnt have to cover guys for a year and a day.
Justin Miller is a special teams monster that has to develop a bit more on the defensive side of the ball. As long as he is helping the team and is learning to be a better cornerback, I wish him all the success.
no.1: d-rob actually dominated in 04. i also, like our coaches, opposing coaches and beat writers, said robertson is getting better and better as a 3-4 NT. no.2: what the hell has that to do with how long he's been in the league? he's switching to a position he never played before. besides that the NT spot is the hardest position to learn (right after QB) in football. if you really think you could switch players around like its not a big deal and they will do great wherever you put them you should continue to play madden. reality is a bit different my friend... no.3: it doesnt matter how much pressure you put on a QB when you have a corner like miller "covering" a WR. he will get open regardless. in case you didnt know miller is not our only cornerback. barrett and dyson have the same front 7 in front of them, yet they know how to cover and how to make plays. besides that the guy cant even tackle, he's a flag machine and doesnt make any plays at all (you can see the "0" right next to the word "interceptions" now dont you?)
So 12 career starts and being TWENTY-TWO has nothing to do with anything... Even Miller had a good day on Reggie Wayne, except the long pass and the questionable pass interference...While Darrent Williams was ABUSED by Wayne this past weekend, being selected 2 spots ahead of Miller... Everybody is gonna get beat, Miller has definately improved over the last few weeks, not drastically, but he's been pretty solid.
barrett hasnt not done anything he is our 4th string cb.. and dyson has had his share plays giving up. this entire secondary has been torched do to lack of pass rush. as robertson 9 weeks into the season and he still looks like crap.rbs are going for there career highs on us week in , week out.vilma still see blockers on every play.u wanna see what a NT look like watch ted washington..thats how you keep ur inside linebackers clean to make plays. thats how you u dominate the point of attack anf demand nothing less than two blockers on you. but this aint about fat man.. this is about miller. the guy that saved a td last week and gave also our only td last week (so much for making plays). w/o miller we wouldnt even be in position to tie cleveland up.
And furthermore to the point of this David Barrett talk...Solid player, but Miller did infact beat him out in camp to win the starting job... He didn't do so well, as evident of him being benched, but now has regained the job. I'm happy to see him regain his job and know it can be taken away as fast it was the 1st time.
The man is 22, give him a break he made a great play in the browns game on the pass to kellin winslow, you think coleman would have done that? Nobody wants to give him credit for that though.They say he can't tackle yet he nearly knocks braylon edwards into the stands on that one play. As Soon as he makes a bad play were all ready to kill him, is that fair ? We throw him under the bus for a bad play, then when he does something good everyone is silent. He's going to be good, just watch.
:rofl: Look, I just think it's pretty unfair how bad people on here bash Miller... Has he been beaten? Missed tackles? Get beat off the line? Misjudge the ball? Yes. Yes he has. But you have to be happy that he constantly is asking Mangini questions on trying to improve, and in the process, he HAS improved lately, that can't be denied, but it rarely gets mentioned by the haters.
I'm willing to be patient with Miller, but he shouldn't get that much playing time if he's that bad on defense, especially when the team becomes good. He's a killer returner though. Really insane.
I think that we just aren't seeing the improvement that you are. It's a question of perception really, and no 2 fans will have the same vision. We might bash but we don't hate. I'd love to see a guy with his skillset make the jump to the next level. Right now, he's a liability as a CB, but an asset on ST. Mixed bag.
22 yrs old, 12 starts, selected in R2. that should tell you everything: he's young, immature (at the position), and therefore needs time to learn. you DO NOT give up so soon on a player who has the physical skillset Miller has. some people learn quicker than others; obviously, Miller isn't one of them. patience. if, in 2 years, the D vastly improves and Miller is a glaring weakness, then i understand. as of right now, let him make mistakes that many 22-year-olds make. cheers
