Brady or Belichick would have to retire..not happening next year. Gronk would have to get injured early in the year..more possible.
Obviously,The fastest route to the playoffs is the division title.I would just like to see it happen for once
Look at it this way, if we win the division the odds of us winning the superbowl are 1/2. We don't waste any AFC East championships, we make them count.
Not with next years schedule and Brady still being very good 2017 I think we have a legit shot, especially if Petty is for real
It all depends on New England taking a fall. 10 wins can you win you a division in a particular season. But in the AFC East, if you can't win 12 games you're not even thinking about the division.
Not asking for a generational QB. A very good one on the level of Wilson, Dalton, Tannehill, Roethlisberger, E. Manning will do the trick. Those are available in the draft almost every year. Granted, the Jets haven't been lucky drafting QB's but they need to keep trying. Jet QB's over the years, with very few exceptions, have been bottom rung. Put one of the above QB's on the Jets current roster and it is a SB contender.
Roethlisberger and Eli Manning are generational QB's. Roethlisberger at a high level and Manning fading in late career but consistent in his prime. Wilson and Dalton have a chance still to be generational QB's but probably will miss the mark. Tannehill is a journeyman QB entering his years of journeying although the Fins will not move on for another year or two due to the contract, similar to Sanchez after his extension.
You believe Eli is a generational Qb but Russell Wilson won't be? Though I'm not quite sure how to define generational, I will liken a generational Qb to a future Hall of Famer. Though this is up for debate, I see Rothlesberger as a clear HOF Qb (He's been consistently a top 5 Qb throughout his career) but I'm not so sure about Eli. Other than his two Super Bowl runs (which admittedly will go a long way in giving him a HOF if he does get one), his presence in this league virtually never made him even top 5 at his position. It is way too early to say the same about Wilson. If Wilson keeps making playoff runs as he has for the past few years, he could very well make it. Just look at him this year: without Lynch or even the same level of defense that he has enjoyed recently, he has only improved his numbers. And maybe I'm crazy, but if I had to build a team around a Qb in his prime, I would choose Wilson over Eli.
Eli Manning is the only reason the Giants got those 2 wins. If you take him off those teams the Giants are the Jets both of those years and get blown away by a better team at some point during the process. It's not easy to see him as a generational QB because his numbers have been downright pedestrian at times but he's the reason the Giants have been good when they were good and one of the main reasons they have been bad when they were bad. He's generational in the same sense that Terry Bradshaw and Jim Kelly were generational. He's the best QB to play in NY since Joe Namath and arguably he's better than Namath was.
I didn't say he was better than Namath I said arguably he's better than Namath and I think that's accurate. One of the interesting things about Eli Manning is that he has made the receivers around him better but they have rarely made him better. That's why so many guys have had a great season or two with him but Beckham is the first guy who might have a great career with him. And Manning's numbers haven't jumped up significantly due to having Beckham on the team. He's the same guy he's always been, whether he had a Beckham level receiver or not.
Looked it up-- we have 4 division championships all-time (from 1960, so AFL+NFL). We are tied at 4 with the Ravens (only been around since 1996), and only ahead of the Texans (2002) with 3 and the Jaguars (1995) with 2. So we've been pretty bad at that. On the other hand, Jets fans whine about the situation entirely too much: We've made the playoffs in 14 seasons, which is 5 more than the Cardinals, and they've been around for 40 more years than the Jets. Think of the old teams that have never won championships-- Vikings, Falcons, Bengals. Or the teams that REALLY haven't won it all in forever, like the Cardinals (1947) or the Lions (1953).
I don't want to over-emphasize stats here, but can you point to a single season in which Eli was firmly a top 5 Quarterback? Has he ever been a top 3 Qb? I'm not trying to be biased (personally I wish nothing but the best for the Giants); I just haven't seen elite play from elite through even a single season. His two playoff runs are incredible and I, like you, attribute those runs to Eli in many respects. If that alone makes him a "generational Qb," then you are right. I just think the Hall of Fame should be more than just Super Bowl wins and playoff runs. It's why I should be able to argue that Dan Marino is a top 5 or even top 3 Qb of all time without having to constantly defend his lack of Super Bowl success. And going back to your original post, for a second, why do you think Russell Wilson will "probably will miss the mark" for a generational qb? I certainly don't think his receivers make him much better than he is.
To me, generational QB's are Brady, P. Manning and Favre of recent QB's, because when you look at their record, they posted winning seasons almost every year. Roethlisberger, E. Manning, Brees are the notch below because as good as they are, having won SB's and all, they had a number of "not so stellar" years. Rodgers and Wilson could be generational with Dalton and Flacco occupying the second notch below. Tannehill, we can debate, but I think he's a really good QB playing for a not so great team.
Back when we were 4 games behind NE and they were playing Buffalo, everyone had given up on the AFCE and wanted Buffalo to lose to help our WC hunt. Everyone but me. I wanted NE to lose, then lose to us in our 2nd game (which they did). That only left 2 games between us and NE with 4 to play. I said then that NE could suffer injuries and drop a few games at the end, which is exactly what happened. If Buffalo had WON their game against the Pats, we would have to chance to tie NE for the AFCE going into our last Buffalo game. We were that close.
As much I as I wish the Jets were in a shitty division where 9-7 wins it most years, it's not just going to happen until Brady declines or the Pats get plagued with injuries.
