Do we need a new Defensive coordinator?

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  1. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    I heard that Revis blamed the Jets' defensive scheme for our loss to the Bills. He was furious after the game, claiming that he was told to play off of Watkins, instead of challenging him in press coverage, like he usually does. He was upset with the Jets' defensive coaches (presumably Kacy Rodgers, the coordinator).

    Someone told me they heard this on sports radio....can anyone confirm this? I couldn't find a link, but I didn't search too hard either.

    If this is true, maybe Bowles should start searching for a new coordinator? Or replace other members of his staff?

    EDIT ..... I found this:
    http://www.newsday.com/sports/footb...ustrated-by-sammy-watkins-and-loss-1.11291134

    "After Sunday’s loss, coach Todd Bowles said many of Watkins’ grabs came when the Jets were in zone coverage. Revis backed up that notion, saying the Jets played a lot of zone during the preceding five-game winning streak.

    “That’s what we felt was best for us as a defense,” Revis said. “There’s no pointing fingers.”
    [Translation: there are fingers to be pointed....at Rodgers? Bowles? other staff?]
    http://nypost.com/2016/01/04/darrelle-revis-has-alternate-view-of-getting-torched-in-jets-finale/

    "Inside look at how Jets coach Todd Bowles closed Revis Island for a day

    What happened to Darrelle Revis against Sammy Watkins? Why was the coverage plan so conservative? Have the coaches lost faith in Revis as a lockdown cornerback?

    With piqued curiosity, I reviewed the all-22 tape from Sunday's game and theNew York Jets' previous game against the Buffalo Bills, Week 10. The difference is dramatic.

    In the first game, Revis covered Watkins on every play the Bills' young star was on the field. Revis looked like Revis, which is to say he was aggressive at the line of scrimmage. He played a lot of press coverage, using his hands in the five-yard zone. There was very little zone coverage -- or at least that's how it appeared from my vantage point.

    The Jets lost the game, but it certainly wasn't because of their pass defense. Revis held Watkins to three catches for 14 yards and the Jets limited Tyrod Taylor to 158 passing yards and 12 rushing yards.

    Eschewing the "if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it" credo, the Jets took an entirely different approach on Sunday. I studied every play and noticed only three or four times in which Revis actually made contact with Watkins at or near the line of scrimmage. When he played man-to-man coverage, it was usually off-man or a bail technique, which helps the corner on deep routes. There was very little press-man, Revis' forte. It was a stunningly passive approach."
    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-je...ach-todd-bowles-closed-revis-island-for-a-day
     
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  2. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    We don't need a new Defensive Coordinator. The game plan didn't work. It happens. The overall body of work was strong.
     
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  3. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    "The bottom line: Revis didn't have a good game, but I don't think he was put in the best position to succeed. Todd Bowles, petrified of getting beaten deep by Watkins, turned one of the best man-to-man players of our time into a zone corner. Essentially, he closed Revis Island."
    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-je...ach-todd-bowles-closed-revis-island-for-a-day

    Yikes! Not good guys... :eek:
    Again, the question becomes, was this Bowles' idea, or did he defer to Rodgers? And if so, maybe he should look for a new DC?
     
  4. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but our D wasn't really all that good this entire season. Despite having a ton of talent on the defensive side of the ball, maybe the most talent we've ever had, our D underachieved. The offense had to bail us out of a lot of games, we didn't get enough of a pass rush, and Revis was misused at least part of the time. That falls on the coaches.
     
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  5. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    I didn't think our D underachieved at all. Our secondary was overrated. Revis and Cro are both older than they were in 2010/2011 and it showed. They weren't bad, but they didn't play at the high level they did for us at that point. The D-Line was dominant all year. Our run defense was elite, we need an outside rusher to help generate more pressure on the QB but our pass rush as a whole was definitely not bad.
     
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    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    One word....


    Pass rush.
     
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    Jetaho Well-Known Member

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    Two words .... No.
     
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    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

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    It would only have taken 1 time for Watkins to burn Rvis deep and the title would have been different. Everyone would have said, Revis is too old to be playing MTM on Watkins.
     
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    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    That would have had to happen first though. Credit Bowles and Rodgers for not putting Revis in that situation if that's what you think would have happened.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Was Revis told to play off his man the entire year? Because I can count on one hand the number of times I saw him jam his man at the line.
     
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    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Top 10 in yards and points allowed and you want to make a change?
     
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    The whole scheme stunk that day..T Taylor running all over, Watkins putting on a show. Could not stop Bills on third down. This is what worries me going forward with this CS.
    The DC and Bowles are prob enmeshed together so you could say we need a new HC as well.


    No changes need to be made yet but as Ive posted before my confidence here is shaken big time
     
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  13. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    Rodgers and Bowles decided to overthink the game plan. It happens. It was terrible. Everything went wrong. Players played bad, coaches coached bad and still should have beat a bad Bills team. That's what makes both Bills losses so frustrating.
     
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    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    Like they wouldn't have changed the scheme after getting murdered by Watkins a half dozen times if Revis was up to it.
     
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    it was a bad plan, it clearly wasn't working, and they didn't adjust at all.

    should have approached Watkins and Hopkins the same way.
    let Revis press them at the line, while providing safety help deep.
    that's on the coaches.
     
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    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    I've been beating this dead horse every week almost since the 2nd half of the season. It's painfully obvious to anybody with a pair of eyes (or even one) that Revis is playing a lot of zone and off coverage, just stuff where he doesn't excel at. It makes no damn sense to pay one of the best cover corners elite money to play zone and off coverage, it's absolutely stupid. Marcus Williams can do that, we don't need Revis for that. It would be like trading for Gronkowski to only have him block and not catch any passes. Go get a blocking TE if that's what you want. Waste of money and skill.
     
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  17. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    What I'm saying is maybe the didn't adjust because they didn't think Revis could execute the adjusted game plan.
     
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    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Just the SOJs doing stupid things again. :mad:
     
  19. gordy

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    There is something called a second half of football. Okay, the game plan was wrong. WHY DIDN'T THEY CHANGE IT UP AND MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE SECOND HALF???? Why??
    Because BOWLES SUCKS. PERIOD.

    *** And Bowles is the head coach - he can overrule Kacy Rodgers. He DIDN"T
     
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  20. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    then your adjusted game plan needs to either involve putting Revis iso against the WR2, or doubling Watkins with Revis and the S.
    that's no excuse at all.

    this is on the coaches. find an adjustment, don't just stick with what's not working. we have the personnel to make a number of different schemes work.
     
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