It's clear that this team is built to win now given many of the contracts/ age of offseason signings over the offseason plus the age of our previous talents like Mangold, Brick, Harris. Unfortunately it's not working for a myriad of reasons. 1) Something that doesn't come up here enough is our turnover ratio. We had 5 takeaways against brown and another 5 against the colts. It was almost too good to be true, and now with a negative takeaway ratio against pats bills and Texans, you could argue we have mean reverted from a turnover perspective and our underlying performance lately has shown our true abilities as getting 4-5 takeaways per game was unrealistic 2) take a step back and think about who you thought would take the leap this year? Most of the names were : Geno smith, Coples, Amaro, Demario Davis, Pryorand Millner if I recall. Well, none of them have shown up except Pryor. 3) offseason signings - there were some major positives - Brandon Marshall as much as he has had some drops is best WR we have had in years, and Gilchrist has been good. Revis has brought much needed stability as well but he's not the same guy from several years ago. On the negative however, Cro has been a disaster and only thing worse is than signing him is that I continue to think Williams is better and at a much lower cost. 4) offensive line. Brick is slipping - it will be a HUGE hole to fill. Fact that we are carrying all these lineman yet when Mangold was out we picked one up off street to me is concerning. Our offensive line is nowhere near the 09/10 level and you can argue needs as many as 4 replacements over next 2 years. 5) TE - I don't care whether people think it's not an important position on this team. It was woefully neglected (amaro was never thought to be an inline guy so still needed help) and we have all been negative on Cumby. You look across the league at guys like Zach Miller, Gresham, Fells, Donnell and it's hard to say we couldn't have upgraded even at a minimal cost. A blocking TE would do wonders for this offensive line. 6) RB - Ivory is one of the most punishing RBs to watch...when he is at full speed. It's clear now to me that he can't and shouldn't carry a full load. He's in a contract year and I wouldn't be surprised if we couldn't afford to keep him at the price he could command externally. In summary, we have built a team with a lot of veterans and early turnover differential masked issues. We will have holes at offensive line, linebacker ( Demario Davis needs to go), and TE and RB. We've spent a lot of our cap and to replace a guy like Davis with even an average linebacker will cost $$$. People need to keep that in mind, as many people said in offseason that Harris and Cro would take hometown deals and neither did. Replacing Brick will not be easy and will require a high round pick. This isn't meant to be doom and gloom - this is painful to watch and type but this rebuild will likely take years. ( I haven't even mentioned QB).
I thought this year is the year Demario Davis bring his game to another and man was I wrong. He is just plain awful. He takes horrible angles, he whifs too much, god awful coverages skills , easily blocked . All that wasted speed and nothing to show for it. Coples is a goner too. Just put him inactive so we'll what we got with some of the youth. Cro is another that should be replaced with some youth. Its time to get some of that lasting stank out of here.
This isn't news. McCagnan put lipstick on a pig with the roster he assembled. Years of poor drafting has left holes across the board.
Well put. If we don't make a move over the offseason to acquire a big time quarterback to cover up these holes and try to win now with the quality veterans we have we could be in for a Jacksonville style rebuild. There's literally 0 young talent on the offensive side of the ball, and all our big time money on the defensive side of the ball is tied into players that will be leaving their prime shortly. If I get some time over the next week I'll try to break down how ugly the future could for us in the near future of 2016-2018 versus how other teams have built up their franchise.
You hit the nail on the head with #4--the OL is old and terrible. Making matters worse is that we don't even play (or have) a blocking TE to help out the overmatched OL.
With all the holes the jets have, they need to make a major move and trade from strength--Move Wilk, Sheldon, or Williams (one of them) for a couple of decent picks--use the picks on offense, preferably OL.
#6, Ivory won't be here after this season. He is a flash in the pan, every season he has a stretch of 3-4 games where he looks like Jim Brown. Then he has 12 games where he looks below average. If we can keep him on the cheap ok, if not Powell is our guy with a cheap fa signing to spell him.
Our offensive line and LB core don't have holes, they ARE holes. We need to acquire multiple high picks in the offseason.
He has started to catch fumble-itis which is most concerning. All but one has been overturned or been recovered by the Jets, but ball security is lacking along with production.
Great Post Hope Mac reads it a few times or has a spy on TGG. Predict another good offseason and draft with MUCH different priorities On the upside, I still have faith in Mike M whereas ive lost most of it in the present CS. Bowles admits it, Gailey should do better
On a positive note the 'holes' are well documented and can be filled. In some cases, the spackle is already on the team. Other holes, O-Line in particular, new blood will be needed. Time for Macc to earn his money.
There is nothing wrong with Chris Ivory. Fitz can't take snaps under center which takes away our iFormation and that defeats ivory's whole purpose. He's a downhill runner that needs that 4 yard boost to hit the whole the way he does. And Mangold not staying in games doesn't help either. Our tackles are ass sauce.
Before yesterday's game there was an article about how BB showed the league how to stop Marshall. It was a joke. Big deal, he doubled him a lot. Marshall still dropped a go ahead TD against the Pats in the 4th quarter. Great coverage. But Gailey responded to the question by saying that his guys did not have someone to pull some of the coverage away from Brandon because Owusu got hurt and Enunwa was out on suspension. Gailey does not get it. It is not enough to have a body on the field. Enunwa cannot catch. He is a blocker with iron hands. We need a third guy who can break press coverage and give the other team something to think about. Kerley is a little guy who can get open in zones. But other teams do not fear him. Our wideouts are two big guys with average speed. Devon Smith is still in the womb as a wideout. Total non-contruibutor. If he was the plan then the plan has failed for this season. When the Jets have to go to an all passing attack, they are undermanned, both by manpower and diversity in what they have. Defensively, we know Cro and DD stink. But what about this dominant D line? Pressure on the QB is completely inconsistent.l Our blitzes are not getting anything done. We do not win with our offense if our D is not exceptional
I'm honestly fine w/ it to some degree. Let's face it...this dominant defense thing hasn't worked. The running game thing hasn't worked. A veteran skill corps hasn't worked. This team is stuck somewhere in 1995 passing game wise. It's simply non existant in any pressing situation. The only way to break that is to completely start over..square one. In today's NFL you need to score points & right now the Jets simply cannot do that consistently. Drastic roster re-shaping needs to take place. I'm tired of the "Polish a turd" approach.
The problems on D are rather obvious and simple. The Jets have no pass rush. Their OLB's are awful and do not provide pressure. Davis in particular sucks at pass coverage. On O it is somewhat more complex. Imo it's not worth complaining about Fitz here for the reasons we've discussed already. But that discussion I think has tended to mean there's been less focus on the overall O. I agree with the observation that the OL is aging, and rather quickly. Mangold's injuries this year are concerning, but the focus on them I think distracts from the fact that Ferguson is clearly tailing off. Colon being out for the season I think means he's done and won't be back. Breno is not even average. But the other thing which involves Gailey is the TE situation. In the off season first Amaro and then Sudfeld went down. Why go into the regular season with Cumby and K Davis? Well, we were told Gailey was unconcerned because he doesn't really need a TE in his offense. That notion clearly has not played out very well. The Jets get neither blocking nor effective pass catching from that position. They can't go to four and five wideout sets because they do not have enough decent wideouts to threaten the opponent. So they can't break D's who focus on stopping the running game with passes to the TE. My guess is Macc and Bowles deferred to Gailey this pass off season when it came to the TE position. Tis is on Gailey.
When we were winning no one complained about Gaileys plan, in fact I was starting to like him Now that the tires have come off the bus we are looking to point fingers. Our weapons are now limited due to injuries to guys like Ivory or because Owusu and Enunwa are below ave. receivers. The offensive line is crappin out. I never heard of an OC who doesnt get a TE involved in your attack. Speaking of which, was entirely more agresive (passing) in the second half of the last loss --should have passed the ball starting the first qtr more. The CS still allows our QB to plunge head first to score PATHETIC ..yeah you try tellin Fitz to slide and not do stuf like this. As much as I like him, someone like Tom Coughlin would have fined Fitzpatric already for putting the rest of the season in jeorpardy. Ryan still thinks its Harvard and an 11 game season SMH. Ftr he had a poor plan to contain JJ Watt. this has to be one of his worst coached games... Chan Gailey is older than our "rookie" HC and should have more football knowledge. Wasnt he a HC once? Gailey will be back outa a job if he is not careful +100 on above posts in ref to the defense and pass rush Gotta be one of the worst Mondays in Jetland
I'm not impressed at all with either Bowles or Gailey. Houston is a team where you had to worry about 2 players, JJ Watt on D and Hopkins on offense. They didn't game plan to stop either and tried to play them straight up one on one. Houston is not a dynamic team, if you stop/slow those 2 down you win. This CS has not been prepared for the team they've faced for most of the season. Early on we saw promising signs like good halftime adjustments (something we never saw from Rex). It was a mirage, this CS is just as bad or worse than Rex and his crew. Revis is not the same player, he is getting blown out by speed guys anytime they run a double move route down the field. Cro is shot, the LB's are slow can't cover, Breno is a waste and D'Brick and Mangold are aging quickly. With a proper game plan they win this game. I have lost confidence this CS knows how to install a proper game plan. Mac has his work cut out for him this off-season. Th name on the back of the jerseys should mean nothing to Mac this off-season, let the play on the field dictate how he decides his moves. Does Devin Smith have compromising picks of Gailey and Bowles? This guy stinks yet they continue to try to run key plays to him instead of the real play makers. Sit his ass on the bench already!
