This is the Fitz we know and loved...

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  1. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    I guess you dont factor drops , playing from behind , into your opinions? Just bias nonsense Im guessing.

    If you're a Bills fan satisfied with your QB's performance last night then idk what to tell you.

    Watch a game sometime and dont just look at a box score.

    1 of Fitz's picks wasnt his fault and the other didnt even matter.
     
  2. matter2003

    matter2003 New Member

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    Yup...puts the game in Fitz's hands in crucial situations when the running game was working well, and Fitz let's him down. Sometimes its 4 straight pass plays from inside the 10 yard line, sometimes its 2 or 3 straight passes on 2nd/3rd and short, sometimes its dumb play calls.

    Those screens Gailey designs work really well in the beginning of the game but not so much towards the end once teams figure them out...but in the first half of games under Gailey, I remember thinking we used to run some of the most beautiful screen plays I've ever seen...the one thing I really miss about him...we had the best screen game in the NFL under him...
     
  3. matter2003

    matter2003 New Member

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    He's a young QB playing in his first handful of games in the NFL. Big, primetime road game against a divisional rival with a good D on a short week to keep our playoff hopes alive. Yeah he made a boneheaded play to take a 8 yard loss when we were inside the 10 yard line instead of throwing it away, but he made no critical errors...no forced picks under pressure, no fumbles and he made a clutch throw on 3rd down late in the game to Watkins to give us a first down and basically allow us to almost run the clock out instead of giving you guys the ball back with almost 3 minutes left and all your timeouts. Fitz was the one who turned the ball over twice, including the backbreaking INT on the first play of the final drive, not our guy.

    So, yeah, he might not have played a great game, but it's impressive how cool and unflappable he has been even in big games, on the road and being under pressure. The Bills are 5-2(including 3-0 on the road) for a reason when Taylor plays and he has a 106.3 QB Rating on the season for a reason too...he has one of the prettiest and most accurate deep balls we have seen since Jim Kelly was here...
     
  4. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Idk I always loved JP Losman's deep ball.
     
  5. JetLifeLo

    JetLifeLo Well-Known Member

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    lmao your a clown.. .fitz played very well... almost to the point where "Fitzmagic" was all starting to make sense. Cant blame him for perfect thrown passes bouncing off of chest pads.. Jets WR's didn't execute but FITZ was turned up.

    I'm not gonna lie if fitz finished that come back win last night it would've been time to talk contract extension. That's how good he was IMO.
     
  6. matter2003

    matter2003 New Member

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    We have erased his name from our collective memories. Please don't remind us of him. Hahaha...

    Seriously tho, you are right...Losman to Evans deep was a thrilling combination to watch for a few years...too bad that was the only good thing he could do as a QB...come to think of it...didn't we end up beating you guys on a Losman to Evans deep jump ball at the Meadowlands where he outjumped Revis and then ran untouched into the endzone for a 17-10 win?
     
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  7. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    What are the jets trending towards? We are 5-0 versus teams below .500 and 0-4 versus teams .500 and above.

    Our remaining schedule? 3 teams below .500, 3 above .500, and one I put in the middle, the Cowboys, who will have Romo back when we play them.

    We haven't beaten any average teams like the Eagles and raiders nevertheless winning teams like the Raiders and Giants. There is no reason to believe we will finish with a good, i.e. winning record. We are an 8-8 team.
     
  8. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    If I was to predict today I think we go into Week 17 with 9 wins.

    Whatever happens in that last game in Buffalo is beyond me.

    I still think with Buffalo's schedule we finish 2nd in the division and could sneak into the playoffs.

    That's what made last night so important. We could've buried them.
     
  9. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Matter, I appreciate your point of view, and your ignoring the shit that is inherent in identifying yourself as a fan of rival team that just beat us.

    On the other hand, fuck you for stirring the shit among the miserable fans of this incredibly mediocre team by coming here and pointing out about how your incredibly mediocre team's fans are slightly less miserable at the moment. Granted, you didn't say that, but your presence here implied it.
     
  10. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    We had three points in the first half, it takes a special kind of head up your ass logic to argue that lost Devin Smith possession would have validated Fitz. Sure, he would have scored on that possession, he just didn't have a chance too. Nice reasoning.

    He had enough possessions in the game to lead scoring drives and didn't.

    GFYWYMD.
     
  11. matter2003

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    Fair enough.

    I think from our perspective we have vastly underperformed for our talent level, especially considering we have gotten mostly good QB play from Taylor and at times, spectacular. Before the season we thought if we could simply get average QB play we would be in great shape cause our D and special teams would perform at a high level like last year, and with few exceptions, they have been average and inconsistent. Some bad, some good but mostly Meh. The offense has carried our D much more than the D has helped our O(last night not withstanding).

    I think we likely should be 7-2...Giants and Jags games were very frustrating. Giants because we sucked in the first half but then completely dominated in the 2nd on both sides of the ball only to have 2 long TDs called back by penalty and see the Giants make 1 play the entire half to score after a missed tackle for no gain should have forced the punt. And he stepped out of bounds on replay, yet the officials and replay somehow missed it. Jags game cause EJ imploded...with Taylor we win that game by 2+ TDs.

    Either way, it's been an uneven and largely disappointing start for us, although a ridiculous amount of injuries to our very good skill players has played a part...
     
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  12. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. But we also had to beat a .500 team and couldn't do it. This isn't an exception anymore, this is indicative of the quality of this team.

    We are hanging our optimism for this team on wins against the Browns, Redskins, Dolphins, Jaguars and Colts. Nothing about that body of wins should make us feel this team is actually any good.

    Sure, we are fortunate that we have two more games against teams that have already fired their coaches, the Titans and Dolphins, but we are clearly above .500 solely on the merits that we have played the majority of our schedule against 4 of the worst teams in the league, not because we are a good team, which I define primarily by the ability to beat good teams as well. When we have played good teams we have lost, with two of those games trailing by over 20 points, and another by two TDs.

    This shouldn't fill anyone with optimism.
     
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  13. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. But the same way the schedule was brutal against us last season. Its helped us out a great deal this year. Doesnt say much about our team really but there's no strength of schedule in the NFL. The AFC South and NFC East winners arent going to hand back their playoff games because neither will most likely get to 10 wins.

    I look at the games we lost and see a lot of missed opportunities. Really the only game we didnt have a shot to come back in was the Oakland game. The rest of em we had our chances and blew it for whatever reason. Lack of skill , lack of preparation , lack of execution. Who knows.
     
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  14. BuffaloBills06

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    Dude we're 5-1 against these guys our last 6 games. Let them enjoy Fitz and hang from Rex's nutsack the rest of the year. I'll be back week 17............until then so long guys lol
     
  15. jco2007

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    Lmao. You are delusional. "Backbreaking int on the first play of the final drive"? Do You realize there were 24 seconds left, we were on the 30 with no timeouts...and needed a TD? Hardly backbreaking. The chances of any team/QB pulling that off are less than 1%. Get a grip.
     
  16. jco2007

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    Later. Have fun missing the playoffs for about the 20th season in a row.
     
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  17. JetsKickAss

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    Good post..............
     
  18. hastygreen

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    The "sane" and semi regular Bills fans (that are sane) are excluded from the following statement. The rest of you guys crawling out of the woodwork need to go the hell back there. Rex is going to make you sorry sooner or later. At which point you may, or may not reflect on on how you handled yourselves now.

    Nobody needs a detailed break down on What Fitz is, or isn't. However, don't let that stop you from beating your chest while you have the chance.Fitz isn't the best QB around and is still just a backup. I don't think anybody here or anywhere else has stated otherwise. At most, I think we have been holding our breath about the whole deal. Fitz is a likable character and one that I hope is still around "after" we find a franchise QB.
     
  19. mr nyjet

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    thank you for pointing that out to the fanboys on the board. far be it from me to stick up for a bills fan, but what he says is correct.

    our qb is average at best, no upside. receivers drop more balls than they catch. their rb is far better, even the backup guy. their te is far better.
    defense spends way too much time on the field. did you notice how they defended the first down markers while we backed way off on a few plays?
    what he says about gailey's playcalling is right. ray lucas said as much on the postgame live show. special teams? a disaster ever since westoff left.
    bootom line: lucky to beat j-ville, got indy with luck injured, could lose to either texans and/or titans in a division where the first place team has a 4-5 record! the bills, 3-0 on road look like a playoff team but the jets do NOT.
     
  20. JetBlue

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    That's the source of my pessimism. Good teams execute to win those games. We have had three chances to beat good teams record wise and lost all three (minus the Raiders blowout). That's not just didn't get it done once, that's a continuous inability to come through with the game on the line against good teams, and no amount of beating the bottom of the league can disguise that.
     

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