They've developed enough talent to win a hand full of SB rings. Yes it helps when Br*dy puts up 40 points a game, but all these players they parade through NE either perform well, or don't stay long. That was my point, younger players have to be better to take the spot, and they have to be better for more than just one PS game.
he'll be starting for someones practice squad team, running the opponents plays so the real starters can prepare for the upcoming game...
I could see why Aboushi may not start of Willie Colon, who is probably seeing his last year here anyway. But what about the fact that Winters is outplaying him in camp right now? Winters was garbage for us last year. Its a clean slate with this new FO so theres no judgement or very little judgement of whats happened in the past.
What are you even talking about? Every team develops talent, what's your point? The Pats are in a position that they have to get more out of their late picks and free agent pick ups because of their inablity to produce quality players through the draft. How many first round picks do they have in their starting lineup? Guys THEY drafted. Don't give me Moss or Revis or somebody from the 90s. How many of those are legit Pro Bowl quality players?
Also, to a response to the OP, the Jets do have younger players on the depth chart. We have guys like Devin Smith and possibly Owusu after Marshall and Decker get too old. We have Mauldin ready to step in after Pace is gone. We have MacDougle, Williams, and possibly Milliner to step in after Revis and Cro pass their prime. The only spots I'm worried about youthwise are at the tackles and replacing Mangold. We certainly need to make offensive line a priority next season.
We haven't been good at those two things is the correct way to phrase that. The jury is still out on Mac and Bowles, but all indications so far are that things will be very different going forward.
Of those draft picks, these are the only ones I see definitely still being on the roster after camp cuts. 1a. Dee Milliner 1b. Sheldon Richardson 2. Geno Smith 1. Calvin Pryor 2. Jace Amaro 3. Dex McDougie These players may also still be around, and at least a couple of them probably definitely will be on the 53 man roster, the others likely will wind up on the PS. 3. Brian Winters 5. Oday Oboushi 4b. Shaq Evans 4c. Dakota Dozier 6b. Quincy Enunwa 7. Trevor Reilly
LOL Got a good laugh out of that one. There's an old saying that patience is a virtue. In that case, we must be the most virtuous football fans around.
Young players the Jets have developed recently: Offense - Nobody to high levels. Literally nobody. The best recent developments are Jeremy Kerley and Bilal Powell and both are second tier players. NFL caliber but second tier. Chris Ivory doesn't count because he is doing exactly what he did with the Saints, he's just been given a lot more carries to do it in. Defense - Mo Wilkerson, Damon Harrison, Sheldon Richardson and DeMario Davis. Quinton Coples is a second tier player playing out of position. Darrin Walls has actually developed some but it's not clear he's even a second tier player. Dee Milliner is just a flat out incomplete. That's what injuries do to a career.
i think there are different types of player development. 1) taking players drafted in the higher rounds, and developing those players into quality starters, and maybe the occasional all-pro ie, the backbone of the team 2) taking late round projects and UDFA's, and developing them into contributors, and occasionally into quality starters We've done terrible in the first category of player development, which goes hand in hand with drafting well. that's what is killing us. The latter category hasn't been as bad, with players like Snacks, Allen, Miles, Marcus Williams, Walls, Qvale, Aboushi, Owusu, Kerley, Powell and others all growing in their careers, and contributing a little more every year. hopefully Mac can turn around the drafting aspect, at which point the quality of our depth will vastly improve with both stars and contributors.
I think our 1st round picks have been pretty much par for the course for any NFL franchise. We hit on about two thirds of them and those players become good to great players. The problem is that we haven't hit on a QB and that's really hurt our ability to contend year in and year out. The 2nd round picks have been more dicey, partly because of project picks and partly because we haven't had a lot of 2nd round picks for various reasons. After the 2nd round things become much thinner overall because we just didn't make a lot of those picks for about 5 years in a row and we had a poor draft in 2013 when we had a bunch of picks.
The Pats were the youngest team to ever win a Super Bowl last year. They are younger this year. You don't dominate like the Pats have done for the past 15 years without developing key role players.
Sure it does, but the Pats would never have dominated for 15 years if they did not develop other players around Brady. If it was just QB play, Peyton would have 10 rings by now.
If all those players are even remotely as good as you say they are and will be, this is a top 5 team but they aren't so mine as well take the homer goggles off bro.
Who said anything about them being good? They're in their 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, at this point you're looking at potential and talent. Nobody is a finished product after a year in football. I mentioned the type of potential they have, they have a lot of talent and potential. If you just go by "well the only solid player was Sheldon" like they've been in the league for 15 years and we revisit the draft class just now. Let's wait and see what happens, at this point anything is possible.
What a sad, sad list. Could be possible that no player on this list starts the first game of 2015. Unbelievable
