I'm sure it helped, but let's not get carried away thinking that he makes the defense twice is good. It's not a QB, as it is still just 1 position out of 11 on defense. Obviously it helps though..
Revis just clocked in at #17 on the NFLN's Top 100 player's of 2015 show (voted on by the players). 2nd ranked corner to Sherman.
I really think he does make a defense twice as good. At least he make them LOOK twice as good. He allows mismatches in the defenses favor and allows defensive coaches to have way more aggressive play calls. More so vs teams that don't have a whole bunch of options but taking a main threat out of the game almost completely and almost forcing teams to beat you with their "other guys" plays in the defenses favor.
So you think it trickles down? Having Revis is basically making everyones job on the front 7 easier? I get that he takes out the best guy, but most teams have more than 1 reliable go to option also.
This line of the conversation began with people talking about 2009 and that was very far from the case that season Revis was shutting down the best receivers in the league single handedly and teams were struggling to find ways to be effective on offense since there was a safety free to blitz on most plays
oh see i was talking about before. But if we just so happen to make the playoffs and go at least to the AFCC (probably won't happen just saying if) .. then we can say he carried us the last two time?
Well hard to say since so many pieces of the puzzle are different now. I'm sure it would be telling though.
If the Jets make it that far this year which I doubt, it won't be because Revis carried them, that 2009 defense was a bunch of journeyman and JAGs with the one elite player being Revis, it was all scheme and aggression that used his cover ability as a crutch to give them time to get to the QB. This team has an embarrassment of riches on the Dline, LBs are about the same, secondary is better and safeties are a question mark but the level of the talent on the Dline will shoulder a lot of burden that the 2009 line wasn't capable of
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/9203/versus-revis-all-wrs-in-elimination-game Tim Graham 517 Shares Print Comment The twisting-turning point came down the right sideline. That's when the Cincinnati Bengals decided to attack Darrelle Revis. That's when they lost. The Bengals were tied with the New York Jets and driving in the second quarter of the Jan. 9 wild-card playoff game in Paul Brown Stadium. Nine plays into their series, the Bengals had advanced to the Jets' 41-yard line. It was third-and-6. Carson Palmer took the shotgun snap and got foolish. Chad Ochocinco, split right and with the NFL's best cover cornerback playing him heads up, released to get outside and flew. Not even a single move, much less a double move. Palmer took three steps and fired a back-shoulder throw to Ochocinco that never arrived. Revis, defending the inside, rotated his entire body counterclockwise and snatched the underthrown ball. He spun once more to gather his feet and dashed 20 yards. Four plays later, the Jets scored a touchdown and took a lead they never surrendered. Revis' play was pivotal -- literally and figuratively. "When you have a choice, you're going to avoid him like the plague," ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer said. "I was shocked Carson Palmer took that shot. I'm shocked they'd even go there. That's usually a route you use to take advantage of a corner that doesn't belong because you know he can't make the play." If offenses should know anything about playing the Jets, it's that Revis almost certainly will make the play. More dominant pass coverage is almost unfathomable. Revis has become the NFL's preeminent lockdown cornerback, drawing comparisons to Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson and propelling the Jets' defense to the top of the charts. Revis finished the regular season with six interceptions and a league-leading 37 passes defensed. He will be a major concern for the San Diego Chargers' prolific aerial attack Sunday in Qualcomm Stadium. "I don't like the term 'shutdown corner' because I think that's hard to find, and it gets thrown around pretty loosely," Chargers head coach Norv Turner said, "but I think I might use that term with Revis. He's awfully impressive on tape. He just goes after it, and he plays every play like this game is meant to be played, and he is very impressive." Revis has snuffed a conga line of great receivers this season. Randy Moss twice, Terrell Owens twice, Ochocinco twice,Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Marques Colston, Steve Smith,Roddy White, Mike Sims-Walker ... They averaged 2.9 receptions and 26.4 yards against Revis. The rest of the season those nine receivers averaged 5.1 receptions and nearly three times as many yards. "The times I've been matched up or in that position, I'm trying not to let the big play happen," said Buffalo Bills cornerbackTerrence McGee. "When you watch Revis out there, he's shutting them down. He's not even letting the little plays happen. "As long as I've played, I've never seen somebody get matched up like that -- game in, game out -- for 16 weeks. You're probably going to have a bad game eventually because the other team gets paid, too. But he doesn't ever seem to have a bad game. It's unexplainable." McGee is correct in that Revis' season has surpassed the standards of great cornerbacking. But we can attempt to explain how he does it. Reasons are plentiful. Not all of Revis' physical skills are sublime. He's not a blazer, but he always seems to gobble ground when it's time to make a play. Revis' vision is uncanny, often allowing him to keep an eye on the quarterback while in man coverage. He has the astonishing ability to flip his hips from a backpedal to a trail position in a blink. His hands are better than most defensive backs. But athletic gifts never are enough to become elite. He's known as one of the hardest-working players in the game. His offseason workout regimen is grueling. He intently studies film of every receiver he's about to line up against, looking for inclinations and tells -- slight posture alterations, foot placement, nervous energy -- that will tip him off to what route's coming. Not every player knows what to look for on film, but Revis' uncle, former NFL defensive lineman Sean Gilbert, taught him how to examine it. Antoine Winfield as the best tackling cornerback. "He's physical," ESPN analyst and former NFL quarterback Tim Hasselbeck said. "Maybe that's the thing that stands out the most is how strong he is. When you see him make contact with guys down the field, you see him get receivers off balance." Revis is so smooth and economical in his movements that he often gives the false impression he's not trying. Those who know football see an extraordinary calmness. Revis knows he's good, has prepared himself and trusts his instincts. Players who appear to be hustling often are overmatched or trying to recover from being caught out of position. Revis never appears awkward or off balance. "He makes the very difficult look incredibly easy," Dilfer said. "It's almost effortless. Many athletes, even at the top of their games, in stressful situations when things get hard, they don't trust their athleticisms and they panic. The great players in any sport, the more stressful the situations, the more ease they approach it with. "When I see Darrelle Revis playing cover corner, I see Kobe Bryant in a one-on-one isolation matchup." Revis was a Pro Bowler before defensive architect Rex Ryan became the Jets' head coach, but the relationship clearly has been beneficial to both men. After all, why would opposing teams dream of throwing in Revis' direction if he's such a lockdown cornerback? He led the NFL in passes defensed. The Jets' defensive schemes made sure of it. Stats Inc. tracked every pass attempt during the season and found Revis was targeted 108 times. Only four cornerbacks were thrown at more frequently: Arizona's Bryant McFadden(113), Pittsburgh's Ike Taylor (110), Arizona's Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (109) and Cincinnati's Johnathan Joseph(109). With a luxury like Revis essentially eliminating the other team's best receiver, the defense has all sorts of options. "He helps the scheme more than the scheme helps him," Williamson said. On running downs, defenses can play closer to the line of scrimmage because Revis will make sure they're not naked deep. In must-pass situations, the defense can dictate where the quarterback throws by overloading one side of the field, thereby funneling the ball to Revis' zone. But Palmer's misguided throw on Saturday was against Revis in man-to-man coverage. So Palmer chose to do that -- for whatever reason. "Will he get beat? Yes, I guess he can get beat," Ryan said of Revis, "but I'll take my chances. If there is one guy that I want to cover somebody, with my paycheck on it, I want it to be Darrelle Revis. Period."
Revis is "solid"?! ..... other people who were "solid" at their profession: Babe Ruth, Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods .... LOL. "Revis is solid" is the understatement of the year!
Lol it's funny how you get your posts smashed into oblivion and then you don't respond and henpeck a ridiculous post to make a joke out of. Textbook troll
I don't really take those rankings seriously and here's why: Sherman at 11 and Earl Thomas at 21? Thomas being on that defense allows Sherman to play risky and pad his stats the way he does, without Thomas on that team I don't think anyone is talking about Sherman as being a top 5 corner much less being the best
I'm actually watching the 2009 games right now. As great as Revis was in 2009, you guys are letting time warp your memories a bit. You guys are seriously underrating what a great year guys like Bart Scott, David Harris, and Eric Smith had. Not to mention how dominant our offensive line was, across the board. Let's not get carried away here.
And as far as the Revis v. Sherman debate, I don't consider them players at the same position honestly. They do different things greatly, it's similar to the way I saw the difference between a guy like Charles Tillman and Revis, when both were among the best in the game. The league calls them both cornerbacks, but in terms of responsibilities and specialties, both do different things. Sherman is better than Tillman ever was, which is why there is more debate. It's a question of what is more valuable, the removal of offensive force, or defensive impact plays? Neither are mutually exclusive to either CB, but each one specializes in one of those categories. Sherman's size is what he's based his play around, and it allows him to make big hits, interceptions, and forced fumbles. These are impact plays, and greatly effect the outcome of a game. The fact that he does not follow the opponents most dominant receiver diminishes his "removal of offensive force", because as the Packers showed, you can keep your dominant playmaker away from him. Revis has flawless technique; he will nearly always stop the completion or make the solid tackle. He is not as likely to make a pick or force a fumble, but he is able to dominantly cover a receiver from any position on the field. It's not a question you can really answer, because what really matters more than anything is which is complimentary to your defense. Do you have Earl Thomas? Well if you do, Sherman's going to be just about the most impactful CB you can have. You don't? Well then Revis is going to be the guy you want. Sure that's a bit simplistic, it depends on a lot of other parts of the defense, but the point is that everyone wants to say who is better, where in many cases it's not a realistic way to portray them.
No, I just meant that Revis is the best CB in the NFL right now, yet he was described in the title of this thread as "solid". Mine was an inexact analogy, I will admit, but my point is simply that Revis is much better than just "solid". ..... maybe he meant it to be sarcastic, but then "solid" should have been in quotes at least.
