Not for me. If he's not any good I think TB will pull him quickly. I also think that Fitz can manage the game successfully. I never liked Fitz, but I think it's in him to allow himself to be coached into that role... No need for the gunslinging or heroics from him. Manage the fucking game and have you're own career year by having a chance at a good playoff run
They BOTH represent his play cause they are both instances of his play. And I would submit that the first game was less a representation of his play because they mostly ran and only asked him to throw 13 times or so. So, yeah, the second game I would say is more representative of his play. I would also say that it represents the culmination of his maturing during this second season. And, really, the notion that "nothing" was on the line IGNORES the fact that jobs are always on the line in every NFL game. Statistics aren't discounted because a playoff berth is not in the offing. I find your reasoning lacking and myopic, with the singular focus of denigrating the Jets starting QB. You're no fan of the Jets. You're just some OLD, disgruntled hater who enjoys spewing hate. When you're not spewing it here, you're likely doing something similar somewhere else because the issue really doesn't matter as much as the enjoyment you get from dissing someone.
While I have maintained the jury is still out on the long term prospects for Smith, he will be getting a verdict before the coming season is over. That said, however, I don't really care what Bucky Brooks has to say - give me a guy with an adult's name, anyway. To call this piece "fair and unbiased" is laughable. Twenty-seven paragraphs, and seven video clips show what a wonderful job Smith has done and then there is this: "During his first two seasons with the Jets, Smith certainly has been an inconsistent playmaker from the pocket. He has mixed a handful of brilliant moments with a number of boneheaded mistakes that lead to questions about judgment and awareness. Smith has surrendered 41 giveaways (34 interceptions and seven lost fumbles) in 30 appearances (29 starts), showing a propensity to turn the ball over when attempting to improvise outside of the pocket. Smith routinely throws the ball up for grabs at the end of scrambles, resulting in costly turnovers at inopportune times. While some of his mistakes can be blamed on the Jets' leaky pass protection, the fact that he has consistently put the ball in harm's way is a major concern." It comes as absolutely no surprise that the guy who would characterize this piece as fair and unbiased and think it's a good, well-written analysis calls himself Truth and wouldn't know a truth if it jumped up and bit him on the ass. Mr. Truth needs to broaden his viewpoint and look in the mirror every now and then.
I like your post, but I'm not sure I understand why you think it's biased. Neither Bucky nor Truth seems to have any real stake in the debate either way. And, really, I think Smith's propensity for turnovers is his major flaw and that is mentioned. I think the number of paragraphs devoted to Smith's passing is because the focal point of the article is to explain the passing plays to people who may not know about them. How would you make the article more fair and balanced?
Wow, you sound angry. You need to chill out. You're going to be even angrier this season if your hero continues to play as he has. And I'm actually a happy Jet fan, the only thing I'm disgruntled about is that we've had the shittiest QB play the last 4 years and some fan bois trying to make excuses for the shittiest QB play in the NFL the last 2 years. While most objective fans would sufficiently dismiss that last exhibition game against the Fins, I trust you understand why we were forced to run as much as we did against the Fins in the first game. Because Geno was playing at an historically bad level and Rex had to take the ball out if his hands. Or you'll make up some other silly excuse. Which is fine but you're not kidding anyone. _
If i woulda known stokes was one of those "old grumpy jets fans" i would have been gave up debating with em lol. You can't change the mind of an old grumpy jets fan. nothing will satisfy them, ever.. until we win a chip.. you still my boy though stokes..
I'm the most optimistic Jet fan you'll never meet. I love nearly everything about the Jets and I consider myself somewhat of a homer. But our QB play has been shitty for so long and listening to fan bois make excuses for Geno is hysterical. I named my dog after Chad. I've been a STH for 15 years, haven't missed a game since I got them and I go to at least 2 road games a year. Are YOU happy with our QB the last 4 years? The last 2 years? Doesn't make you grumpy, just a realist. _
Good shit. And no i'm not happy with the QB play but I'm not just a "geno fan boi". I've told you before I'm a WVU fan.. i know Geno's strengths and weaknesses and Rex & the crew were using him terribly wrong, and they lost faith in him way too soon. He should've never been thrown out there to begin with in his rookie year. I know Geno can run a spread offense though, he's gotta be slingin' the rock.. that's just the type of QB he is. He's not a west coast dink and dunker... and our offense was garbage. I'm not saying he's the next coming of A-Rod but i know he can perform much much much better than what he has shown. Yeah he's made stupid mistakes but let's not act like he's the only young QB that's made stupid mistakes. People treat him like he's a 8 year vet that sucked each and every year. He's a 24 year old kid that was never groomed by any type of NFL level offensive minded coaches (i love rex but it's true... our offense sucked for the longest). Just saying give the kid a chance.. it's now or never for him.. He doesn't even have to be great for this team to be really really good.. a lot of teams don't have that luxury..
We have all seen the stats before. Letting go of Geno too early would be ridiculous. Not all Rookie Quarterbacks are Luck, Ryan or Wilson. Many quarterbacks who make a name for themselves actually sit a year or two. Here you see that it could take three years to develop or determine the fate of your young passer. This is Genos year. Romo GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2005 DAL 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2006 DAL 16 220 337 65.3 2,903 8.61 19 56 13 6 68.5 95.1 2007 DAL 16 335 520 64.4 4,211 8.1 36 59 19 7 71.2 97.4 Rogers GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2005 GB 3 9 16 56.3 65 4.06 0 16 1 2 -- 39.8 2006 GB 2 6 15 40 46 3.07 0 16 0 1 7.5 48.2 2007 GB 2 20 28 71.4 218 7.79 1 43 0 0 83.3 106 Manning GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 1998 IND 16 326 575 56.7 3,739 6.5 26 78 28 3 -- 71.2 1999 IND 16 331 533 62.1 4,135 7.76 26 80 15 1 -- 90.7 2000 IND 16 357 571 62.5 4,413 7.73 33 78 15 4 -- 94.7 Brady GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2000 NE 1 1 3 33.3 6 2 0 6 0 0 -- 42.4 2001 NE 15 264 413 63.9 2,843 6.88 18 91 12 9 -- 86.5 2002 NE 16 373 601 62.1 3,764 6.26 28 49 14 5 -- 85.7 Roth GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2004 PIT 14 196 295 66.4 2,621 8.89 17 58 11 1 -- 98.1 2005 PIT 12 168 268 62.7 2,385 8.9 17 85 9 1 -- 98.6 2006 PIT 15 280 469 59.7 3,513 7.49 18 67 23 3 45.9 75.4 Brees GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2001 SD 1 15 27 55.6 221 8.19 1 40 0 2 -- 94.8 2002 SD 16 320 526 60.8 3,284 6.24 17 52 16 2 -- 76.9 2003 SD 11 205 356 57.6 2,108 5.92 11 68 15 4 -- 67.5 Manning GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2004 NYG 9 95 197 48.2 1,043 5.29 6 52 9 2 -- 55.4 2005 NYG 16 294 557 52.8 3,762 6.75 24 78 17 7 -- 75.9 2006 NYG 16 301 522 57.7 3,244 6.22 24 55 18 7 46.2 77 Flaco GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2008 BAL 16 257 428 60 2,971 6.94 14 70 12 6 43.2 80.3 2009 BAL 16 315 499 63.1 3,613 7.24 21 72 12 6 53.4 88.9 2010 BAL 16 306 489 62.6 3,622 7.41 25 67 10 7 59.7 93.6 Ryan GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2008 ATL 16 265 434 61.1 3,440 7.93 16 70 11 2 73.6 87.7 2009 ATL 14 263 451 58.3 2,916 6.47 22 90 14 5 58.5 80.9 2010 ATL 16 357 571 62.5 3,705 6.49 28 46 9 3 70.6 91 Rivers GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT 2004 SD 2 5 8 62.5 33 4.13 1 13 0 1 -- 110.9 2005 SD 2 12 22 54.5 115 5.23 0 22 1 2 -- 50.4 2006 SD 16 284 460 61.7 3,388 7.37 22 57 9 3 60.1 92
There's a huge difference between fans claiming Geno was actually pretty good last season and fans who know we're stuck with Geno and have just enough small positives to HOPE Geno can grow into a serviceable QB, which is all we need at this time. Saying Geno played well to end the season and now has a new HC, OC, better weapons, and more experience so hopefully he can play 'good enough' is not being a Geno Ball Sucking Homer. It's being a fan of the NY Jets. The simple fact that you refuse to see any hope whatsoever for Geno and our upcoming season tells me all I need to know.
I see a ton of good for our upcoming season. I loved the McGag and Bowles hires, really looking forward to this regime. Our defense is going to be insane. But hope is not a strategy. I'd love to see what Fitz could do managing this offense to a 10-6 record. _
It's really quite simple, Bucky (seriously?) wrote what he wrote, which I have no quarrel with. On the other hand, for someone else to come along and call that piece fair and unbiased is ridiculous. If the piece was truly that, four of the seven clips would show an interception or a wide open receiver missed or not even thrown to. And certainly more than four percent of the paragraphs would expose Smith for what he is - unsuccessful to date.
Receivers in the NFL are good or else they would be playing elsewhere. Smith HAD good receivers last year and in fact I was excited for him when JI got Decker and Harvin. So with Kerley and the rest you would figure there would be SOME improvement. When most of them were NOT injured eg Decker Geno still sucked. I find it just very hard to believe all the homers are still holding on for some miracle from GS. Its like wife abuse and woman cant find the will or means to leave. As a Jet fan I want the team to win. Not necessarily see Geno "fail" so we can say told ya so, thats absolutely childish.
Stokes browbeated into happiness. Please pass the soma to me It goes without saying Stokes wants Jets to win (so do I ) . I posted a 10-6 season a while back...if Smith completes the plan great. Thank god we have a Plan B
"Receivers in the NFL are good or else they would be playing elsewhere..." Um, not so much. Many players of all positions get to play FOR A WHILE in the NFL. Stephen Hill and David Nelson are two examples. These guys are NOT good and ARE NOT actually playing elsewhere. And they constituted the primary starters for GS during the 2013 season. And Decker was actually injured and less than 100% for a fair amount of 2014. Harvin only arrived after half of the season had already been played. So, all in all, a post with some serious accuracy issues and with a bent toward making all the issues with Smith and not with the talent that surrounded him. The coaching staff was fired, the GM (talent acquisition) was fired. Clearly, someone thinks that the talent was insufficient...and not Smith's. That said, you're entitled to your beliefs and we homers are entitled to ours.
