The majority of what I've read so far this offseason his indicated that the defense has been much better than the offense. I would think that our D is top 5 in the league . . . A few summers ago I read the book "Collision Low Crossers" about the 2011 jets team and this was the case as well with the D being so much better than the O. Toward the end of '11 season there was also a lot of tension between the players and coaches of the Dominant D and madly inconsistent O. If this trend of the D dominating the O continues, I would think that this would hurt the growth of the offense especially with a New OC, learning a new playbook and Geno and the young players when it comes to chemistry, confidence and maybe even reps. You guys think this thought of mine holds any truth?
I would think it might help considering there will be a drop off in competition level when the games come around. Receivers will be accustomed to playing against Revis and Cro, the o line will be used to trying to block Sheldon, Mo, Snacks and Leonard, and when they get out there for a game the opponent across from them will (most times) not be as good as they're used to seeing.
I was hoping these kinds of threads would end with the departure of Rex. Evidently not. At the end of the day, the defense will have the advantage as its been the favored unit for the last 6 years. Gailey's offense will have to deal with it until they are treated equally. That would never have happened under Rex. The reality is, you'll see when offense becomes a priority on draft day. When the BPA on our board happens to be an offensive player.
In my albeit limited experience, the tougher the opposing side was in practice, the better we got. I was never the best athlete in high school, but after getting my ass kicked by the older kids all week, I'd get to go against guys my own size for JV and destroy them. You don't get better by playing against easy teams.
Oddly enough I had the same thought today as OP. A beat writer said Geno ran more than you'd liketoday because defense blanketed the entire receiving squad. This connotes a sense the defense is too good and overcoming them is too hard for this O. Geno might not be throwing enough balls, and seeing as he won't be playing a top five D stacked with Pro Bowl level defensive livemen and cornerbacks everyday, practicing against them all the time might be overkill Contrary to popular belief, development happens best when challenges are hard but not too hard. Normally a person experiences degrees of failure and success in endeavors, with more successes as they realize their own mistakes and come to the correct answers (if this is within their ability). But a person gets dejected when everything they do has no positive result and learning becomes difficult when they have too little feed or too nuanced feedback for them to understand. It's like giving a kid doing basic algebra a test in calculus and telling him to figure it out. That said, the O might be getting better still. Football isn't math, after all. We'll see.
If the offense if practicing against a top 5 defense every day, pissing in everyone else's mouth should be easy.
No. Anytime you have the starters going against the starters it makes you better. Our defense should win every single day I mean look how stacked they are. Some of our O-Lineman and our younger Wr's should feel blessed to be able to compete against our D-Line/DB's everyday. Once the season gets closer you'll see more 1's vs 2's on each side of the ball but regardless it's not like one side is winning every play all day long. The 2011 situation was an in-game problem that carried into the locker room/practice field. Just like any team if one side is carrying the team while the other is dragging them down there will be some tension. It's not because they dominated in practice it's because one side was good and the other sucked more than suck.
I always thought there was something to this. Offense is like a coreographed dance routine. Timing and synchronization is critical and can only be mastered with repetitions. When you have a nasty defense that's always screwing with those reps it can cause problems. Let's hope Bowles isn't too proud to lay off a little sometimes and let his offense get some timing down.
The defense will always be ahead of the offense when you are fielding table scraps at the QB position
most of the time the 1st team offense and 1st team defense dont face off. its usually first team offense vs second team defense and vice versa. so no, it isnt really an issue.
The Jets are using all their 1st round picks on defense for the last 6 seasons, including 2 1st rounders in 2013. If the defense isn't dominating the offense something is wrong. Since 2006 (10 drafts ago) the Jets have drafted 2 offensive players in the 1st round and 9 defensive players. That's an amazing ratio. Until this year it closely tracked the head coaches preference in the 1st. Leonard Williams was too good to pass up on the 6.
Absolutely. The situation reciprocates in every other mental discipline, and the pattern is almost exactly the same. What this offense needs is not a top notch competition at this point in time. They need some time for incubation. They should be making one baby step after another. They should get used to the modus operandi of the current offense, and then should get used to the staple plays. And then they can think about adding a piece or two at a time. Defense is fully stacked, and has been functioning at relatively high level for quite some time. Releasing them on 1st team offense is more than overkill.
That's what positional practice and group practice is for. Practice is not constantly offense vs. defense. DBs do their thing, LBs do their thing, d-line, QBs, RBs, WRs, o-line. Then the QBs will work with the receivers on running routes, hitting those routes, and timing. That's when it's time to learn plays and master them. Playing offense versus defense for practicing other techniques. You can only practice stripping a receiver from catching a ball or shaking a defender when there's actually a defender there. It's where you learn to improvise.
I used to think it would help but then Mark Sanchez, Santonio and co. practiced against a top 5 D everyday 09-12 and continued to struggle on game day.
Probably had more to do with Sanchez not being very good, Holmes being lazy, and really no one else besides Edwards who was good. Hill's problems were not being able to catch a pass even if he was wide open. Kerley is a decent slot receiver but nothing more. Burress always was useless outside of jump balls. 2012 we were plagued with injuries. Schilens just wasn't good and Gates wasn't good either. It didn't matter what kind of defense they practiced against, they were going to suck with no talent.
