Tom Brady suspended for four games Overturned!

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Hahahaaa nice.

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  2. PickSix

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    Yee is a peon. He had nothing to lose with his 15 minutes.

    The more I think about it, the more I think I was jaded by listening to Well's audio response. I was listening to his voice more than his words, and it made me cringe. Some people are more suited to print instead of TV and Radio.
     
  3. JStokes

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    And posters here need to stop making up BS that they know how most players or most people connected with the league feel about issues.

    None of us are insiders. None of us know more than a few players. Nobody has any insight to how many players are supportive of Brady or how many are pissed off that he got away with a slap on the wrist.

    Including me.

    I've read dozens of tweets both ways. Please don't tell me players or people connected to the league think it's no big deal, or it is a big deal.

    All we have is our own opinions.

    Nobody knows anything about what they feel in large part.

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  4. Antoni

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    Agree. Punishment is too light. It's unfortunate this investigation took as long as it did. Brady should have been suspended for the Super Bowl.
    I wish they docked more picks instead of cash.
     
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    Gasp...is that a weapon?
     
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    Brady should have to serve the suspension in November. They typically suck in the early going anyways, so make it hurt and punish them when they usually ramp it up.
     
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    Great exchange on the Mets game.

    The game cuts to the SNY studio for the post game promo and that absolute dooshnozzle tool Adam Schein in his affected fake voice says "Tom
    Brady gets suspended for 4 games and that's ridiculous, back to you Gary" and Gary Cohen says "Yeah, should have been 8 games" and Ronnie agreed.

    Too funny.

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    One guy I could see Belichick signing is Mike Vick whose probably the best available Qb. I could see Vick doing pretty well over there.
     
  9. The Waterboy

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    They weren't watching at first. Even though they received the email before the game they did not believe it was credible/significant at the time. Until the deflated ball was brought to them at half time, they they got involved.
     
  10. NYJFan10

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    Tampered yes but the first round pick was part of an actual deal brokered by Parcells and Kraft. The Jets won the appeal and didn't have to let Billy Boy go, ergo they received no actual penalty for the tampering.
     
  11. Walt White

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    Yeah, spot on regarding Schein, brutal.

    Speaking of SNY, they quoted Ed Reed yesterday and Reed had some harsh criticism of Shady and the Pasts*
     
  12. JStokes

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    Yeah but as you've read, most people connected with the NFL don't think its a big deal.

    Or DO they?

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  13. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Hey man... if Tom Brady says to me he didn't do it, I'm gonna believe him because he's my friend
     
  14. The Waterboy

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    Was just about to post that pic. Here is another nice one.
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    have i mentioned how much easier of a read it is when you dont have to sift through 100 posts of complete horseshit arguing and can actually see different peoples opinions.
     
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    what is this sorcery you speak of
     
  17. Acad23

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    Here's what west coast columnist Bill Plaschke had to say. Seems fair & balanced.

    It's now as official as the presentation of the Lombardi Trophy, only that sterling silver ball has been attached to a heavy metal chain.

    Four months after the NFL crowned Tom Brady and the New England Patriots as Super Bowl champions, the league has formally determined they are also brazen cheaters.

    How rich. Football's reigning Super Bowl MVP is brought down by the deflating of the very piece of equipment that pumped him up.

    How deserving. Football's longtime spying and rule-skirting organization will now have to affix those latest championship rings with scarlet letters.

    The four-game suspension of Brady and the stripping of two New England draft picks and $1 million by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday was the perfect ending to a story that has forever stained Tommy Perfect while fitting the Patriots' reputation perfectly.

    You remember how it all began, right? Fun from the start. One minute Goodell was posing for a photo with Patriots owner Robert Kraft at Kraft's home on the January weekend of the AFC championship game against the Indianapolis Colts. Less than 24 hours later, that game was being interrupted with charges that Kraft's team was cheating the Colts by deflating the footballs.

    An investigation was launched and, finally, last week, a 243-page report was submitted by league-appointed attorney Ted Wells, who not only confirmed that the footballs were deflated, but wrote that it was "more probable than not" that Brady was aware of the intentional deflation plan by two Patriots employees.

    Amid claims of unfair treatment and circumstantial evidence from the sadly blinded Boston sports fans whose parochial arguments often make as much sense as Bill Belichick's haircut, the sports world anxiously awaited Goodell's ruling with everyone wondering if he would let his personal affection for Kraft and admiration for Brady affect his decision. When the answer was finally given, it was both resounding and refreshing — Goodell used that pin in the football to stick a fork in the champs.

    Brady has been suspended without pay for the first four games of the 2015 season. This is deliciously difficult timing in that, for his first appearance, Brady will have to face the team and fans he cheated, as the Patriots' fifth game is against the Colts in Indianapolis.

    The Patriots, meanwhile, have been fined $1 million — matching the largest fine in NFL history — and stripped of a first-round draft pick in 2016 and a fourth-round pick in 2017. This is also good timing in that, well, it's never a bad day to fine a team that has spent 15 years playing loose with the rules.

    The Patriots' playoff chances probably won't be affected, even with Jimmy Garoppolo and his 27 career NFL passes playing quarterback, because Coach Bill Belichick is famous for making adjustments. The team's coffers won't really be affected either, because what is $1 million for a franchise that is worth more than $1 billion? The loss of the first-round draft pick will hurt the most, but the Patriots are adept at building rosters from makeshift parts.

    The damage here will not be seen in Brady's play or the Patriots' record, but in their shared legacy. Brady, a former sixth-round pick who has long been considered the NFL's shining example of hard work and perseverance, is now officially a cheater who belongs in the same conversation as a Lance Armstrong or Barry Bonds. The Patriots, who had already been fined and docked a first-round draft pick for spying in 2007, might now be officially the most deceitful organization in NFL history.

    "Today's punishment . . . far exceeded any reasonable expectation," Kraft said Monday in a statement. "It was based completely on circumstantial rather than hard or conclusive evidence."

    The evidence, highlighted by text messages between Brady and the two team employees who doctored the footballs, was more than enough. Could it have been more conclusive? Sure, maybe if Brady had not actively hindered the sleuths by refusing to release texts and emails, which is considered conduct detrimental to the league.

    "We recognize our fans' concerns regarding the NFL's penalties and share in their disappointment in how this one-sided investigation was handled," Kraft said.

    Hey Bob? It's over. You were caught cheating. Again. Nothing you can say is anything anyone should believe. Just zip it.

    There is truth to Patriots fans' claims that Brady didn't need the deflated footballs to beat the Colts in a 45-7 romp, and that he legitimately was the Super Bowl MVP by throwing properly inflated footballs for four touchdowns and 328 yards in the 28-24 victory over the Seattle Seahawks.

    But there is also truth to the claims that Bonds was headed for the Hall of Fame before he allegedly began using steroids, and that Lance Armstrong could have won the Tour de France without the injections. It doesn't matter that Brady didn't need deflate footballs. They were deflated anyway. Cheaters are cheaters even if they never needed to cheat.

    And with Brady, one now legitimately wonders, exactly how long has he been cheating, and how much has he gained from it? Hmmmm. Prior to the 2006 season, the NFL stipulated that the home team supplied all of the game's footballs. But after much lobbying by a quarterback group that included Brady, the rules were changed to allow each team to supply its own balls, which would have enabled him to have the balls deflated, making them easier to handle.

    Before that rule took effect, in Brady's five seasons as a full-time starter, only once did he throw for as many as 4,000 yards, and never did he throw as many as 30 touchdown passes.

    But after that rule change , he became the statistics monster that he remains today, throwing for more than 4,000 yards in six of the ensuing eight seasons, with at least 30 touchdown passes in five of those years.

    Coincidence? You decide. After Monday, there is a chance that the pages of NFL history have decided already.
     
  18. NY Jets68

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    The whole of Pats fandom are living their Captain Queeg moment.

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  19. AlmostNamedMyDogRevis

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    That's true. Honestly he should feel lucky, he still has to play Suh, Wake, Mo, Sheldon, Leonard, & Snacks twice this year but he only has to play Hughes, Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, & Darius once now. I mean he's gonna get hit a lot this year.
     
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    True
     
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