You've clearly never watched him play. I've been stuck watching Eagles games for 6 years now. I'm very familiar with the team. 60.8%, 6.41 YPA, 6 TDs, 5 INTs, 79.1 rating. 64%, 9.12 YPA, 27 TDs, 2 INTs, 119.2 rating. 59.8%, 6.96 YPA, 13 TDs, 10 INTs, 81.4 rating. One of those is an outlier. The good season is a fluke.
You mean the guy who is 13-3 in his last 16 games? You mean the fluke was the one season where he actually played more than half of it? Oh ok guy. His rookie year stat ratios were right on par with Wilson, Luck, and RG3. He set records for passing efficiency the next year. Up to his injury this year he had his team at 6-2, with two close losses, And he had one less TD - same amount of INT's as Luck, and that's counting Luck's 5 TD week 8 vs the Redskins. Here's a fun time, watch the Eagles-Colts game and you can see the medias favorite lucky charm #1 overall pick get outplayed at home by a so-called scrub 3rd rounder. Next time you watch him play, try taking off the mainstream-media blinders.
Right, because no one here has anywhere near the cognitive abilities that only YOU possess. Nobody else has watched the games the same way YOU have. Only you have the insight and analytical skills to...Oh, never mind.
Bortles was the hyped QB by the inside football people because he was the only 1st round prospect last year who had both the size and the arm that the NFL wants out of a star QB prospect at this point. Bortles went to Jacksonville on the 3 because he was the best physical prospect and he was very marketable in the central and northern Florida market. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Tampa Bay take Jameis Winston for the same reasons. Most hyped due to physical characteristics and he'll be very marketable in their primary selling territory. If he has anything serious come out on the "rape allegation" side or gets in some other trouble between now and the draft they won't touch him with a ten foot pole, because then his marketability will evaporate. At that point there's a good chance they take Mariota or trade down some if a big value deal is offered.
Foles was barely successful with a great receiver corps and 1-2 RB corps. Geno Smith would have done very well with that offense.
I was going to mention what Seattle did as being a rare exception. They deserve a lot of credit for that.
Winston does more than just throw the ball well. He has also shown awareness in the pocket and the ability to read defenses. Throw in his leadership and experience against tough competition he is the full package. So far Mariota is a one trick pony. Dumb down the offense like they did for RGIII and Kaepernick and he will be fine. The real questions with Mariota will be answered when they expect him to digest the playbook and play big boy NFL football.
I'm honestly hoping we can find a diamond in the rought type of QB in round 3-6,I know it won't happen because we are the Jets .....but I can wish
It blows my fucking mind that any Jet fan would want Nick Foles. The same Nick Foles that was statistically worse in every category last season in his 7.5 games then Mark Sanchez was in his 8.5 games with the Eagles. A Nick Foles who has 6 legitimate options to throw to, and a Top 3 RB, and couldn't even post a 60% passer rating last year. A QB whose coach is apparently willing to give away his entire draft AND future picks away in order to replace. Just flat out NO to any trade with the Eagles. If Mariotta happens to fall to the Jets at #6 and then we trade him away for what will most likely be a decent to good corner or receiver, some unknown prospects, and Nick Foles then the Jets deserve to keep losing. The Jets have tons of money to spend and can fill every single hole on the team with it EXCEPT QB, unless we consider Brian Hoyer or Mark Sanchez actually fixes. Mariotta may fail, but for a team that has never had a true franchise QB, you have to take that chance.
I think you said you follow the Eagles. Then you must have realized that between Foles's great season in 13 and last year, that they traded away their best receiver, right? I think if you call a corps without Desean Jackson great, then what do you call one with him? Superfantastic? And didn't the Eagles have OL problems compared to the year before, even more so early in the year? From what I gather from Eagle fans, the other big factor is that Kelly tried last year to use more of the kind of movement offense for the Qb he wants than the year before. Foles concededly is more or less a pocket passer. So maybe Kelly saw that Foles not only did worse without Jackson, but also is now seen by Kelly as not suited to the kind of Qb he wants for his O. Obviously Mariota is that kind of Qb. Before concluding I do think there is some evidence Foles regressed in his fundamentals last year. But it is likely that was a short term thing compounded by the loss of his favorite receiver and the OL problems. So, what we seem to have here is Kelly wanting to move from Foles to Mariota not purely based on an assessment that Foles sucks, but more because he's a pocket passer not suited to the kind of O Kelly wants. Bring Foles to the Jets, add a speedy wideout and an OG, and this could become overnight a top 15 or better offense.
By all accounts Chip Kelly is some sort of football genius. Yet we are to believe that Kelly could not figure out Foles is not a mobile QB until this year? Note Kelly has had plenty of opportunity via the draft and FA to add a QB to his team that "supposedly" fits his system. Yet, on his roster last year he carried 3 more or less pocket QBs. In fact, he let Vick, the guy Mariota said he grew up patterning his game after, walk in favor of Sanchez. He passed on Geno, an athletic QB with experience in the spread, TWICE in the draft! Kelly has had success before and after Mariota. This narrative that he needs Mariota for his offense is silly. Keep in mind, I'm not saying Kelly would not try to get MM at a reasonable price if available, but the notion he plans on moving heaven and earth to attain him is a media conspired fantasy IMO.
I have no reason to disagree with you, but there is much talk about Kelly wanting Mariota, and Eagles fans have their theories. We shall see in fact if Kelly pursues Mariota.
the problem with that is Mariota is a total project who has never run a pro offense in his life and has never had to go through reads and progressions in his life. If he was a sure bet, he wouldn't be there at anyway so the whole theory makes no sense.' that said, if chip Kelly gives us the 20 plus his 2nd and his 3rd and something in 2016......you do it in a HEART BEAT!!!!!!!! And im not convinced that Mariota gets drafted in the 1st round.
one note? sucking Geno's balls? wtf are you talking about? I want a QB...but heres NO CHANCE I take GENO SMITH PART 2 with the 6th pick overall... and with all the holes we have, Ill take 4 picks for 1 all day long
My bad--different Johnny. I think that was johnnyssd or something always kissing Geno's ass. Apologies _
That bolded part right there. That is Geno's most glaring issue as well...oh hell...the biggest issue of MOST QB's coming into the league. Read and recognition. It's the college QB's that can do that who will succeed. I mean, let's face it...most of them can make most of the throws etc...etc... But to display that ability to work within an offense and read/react. That's what's rare...
